Poster Boy Goes to the Bank

[reelapeelin]

The MSM is scratching their heads wondering why all are running past the one guy who's fit to be POTUS on their way to support all flavors of the month...Huntsman's the only one in the field I can vote for...my only hope is he's allowed outta the GOP cellar to the top...Paul's the only other consideration for me, but his foreign policy worries me...

Can somebody comment on why Huntsman gets no creds...

[willy]

Huntsman is OK, Bachman and Santorum are both OK, Newt has a lot of baggage, so does Romney.
Ron Paul has a lot of ideas I really like, and I believe he will do the things he says he would. Problem is his isolationist foreign policy would have left us with a Japanese owned giant prison camp in Asia and a Nazi dominated world if he was POTUS in the forties.
I do believe we are way over extended, and I do believe many significant changes must be made to our foreign policy and the shedding of our treasure.
But I do not look at the world with rose colored glasses and I know evil when I see it.
I am more of a Churchill guy and feel the Nevil Chamberlins of the world are what will destroy us.
All this being said, not a single vote has been cast yet, and I do not portend to know the why;s of how people vote.
But I do know this, to save this country from an absolute socialist I am going to support 100% WHOEVER is nominated for the Republican Party.
To do otherwise, would give us four more years of social division, an economic collapse, a federal government that controls all of our lives, a loss of liberty so profound that I would be ashamed of myself for letting it happen.

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

Huntsman is OK, Bachman and Santorum are both OK, Newt has a lot of baggage, so does Romney.
Ron Paul has a lot of ideas I really like, and I believe he will do the things he says he would. Problem is his isolationist foreign policy would have left us with a Japanese owned giant prison camp in Asia and a Nazi dominated world if he was POTUS in the forties.
I do believe we are way over extended, and I do believe many significant changes must be made to our foreign policy and the shedding of our treasure.
But I do not look at the world with rose colored glasses and I know evil when I see it.
I am more of a Churchill guy and feel the Nevil Chamberlins of the world are what will destroy us.
All this being said, not a single vote has been cast yet, and I do not portend to know the why;s of how people vote.
But I do know this, to save this country from an absolute socialist I am going to support 100% WHOEVER is nominated for the Republican Party.
To do otherwise, would give us four more years of social division, an economic collapse, a federal government that controls all of our lives, a loss of liberty so profound that I would be ashamed of myself for letting it happen.

Reactionary voting...I know what ya mean...the lies he told and his passing the Patriot act stomping on our privacy rights pi$$ed me off over W and anything to the Right...that's the outrage that brought me to vote for Obama!!....I'm searching everywhere I can for someone to vote for other than Obama...somewhat due to my belief re one term is all any politician should serve, but largely due to the fact he has not delivered anything on the promise to run the lobbyists outta Washington...I heard him say it and it was a large consideration that lead me there...once he got in, the only story I heard was re he couldn't run the Raytheon folks out cuz they had too much TECHNICAL info for the gov't to live without......and that was the last I heard about it...
If the GOP will give me someone worthwhile to vote for, he'll get it...but if Newt's on stage when the dust settles, it's the Big O for me...he may be dirty, but he ain't filthy, arrogantly wallowing in it.

The biggest shame here is we have to decide who's the LEAST OFFENSIVE in deciding who gets our vote...but nothing offends me more than the selling of our gov't officials and the power structure ripped away from we the people and sold to rich and corporate greed mongers shouting free market...

[willy]

My friend, I know you and I do not agree on a lot of things politically, but I do wish to say one thing to you from the bottom of my heart.
I don't care if Donald Duck is the opposing candidate and he wants to run Elmer Fudd as a VP, that is who we will have to vote for, maybe holding our nose, but that has been life in this nation for as long as I can remember.
To do otherwise is to doom our nation, voting for the Obama will be sticking a knife in the heart of our country and he will transform it into a socialist state.
That will be the only possible result of that vote for him and I know you see that he has done more to steal the liberties and defile our Constitution than anyone in history. His problem is not just the corruption as usual or actually as he has taken to a much higher level, it is his ideology of a Marxist State that is the higher danger.
The "People" that are spoken of so highly in the Constitution must make a stand here and now, no Marxism, no Giant Federal Government that controls all.
A vote for Obama will be the destruction of our Nation as we know it. Anyone can see it, we all know it.
Please think very hard about your last post, thats all I am going to say about it.
And I pray that others will see it to.

[bradford]

This country has come too far in the last couple hundred years and is losing too much for us to have two sh!tty choices to pick from come election time. A couple elections ago I decided I wouldn't play their little game and vote for the loser lesser of two evils the MSM and PTB wanted me to choose from. This country needs more choices than the same old D vs. R. I will vote for who I think deserves the position even if I write it in, even if there is no space to write it in. I will vote for Willy and Reel if there is no one else to choose from.

[Destroyer]

The following is the actual quote from Obama with regards to how he views the Constitution of the United States:

"If you look at the victories and failures of the civil rights movement and its litigation strategy in the court, I think where it succeeded was to invest formal rights in previously dispossessed people, so that now I would have the right to vote. I would now be able to sit at the lunch counter and order and as long as I could pay for it I’d be OK. But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn’t that radical. It didn’t break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it’s been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you, but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.
And that hasn’t shifted and one of the, I think, tragedies of the civil rights movement was because the civil rights movement became so court-focused I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalition of powers through which you bring about redistributive change. In some ways we still suffer from that."

Read the red highlighted sections, then read them again and again. In those brief sentences we see, clearly, that Obama thinks that the Constitution is NOT a document giving the people certain rights, but rather it is a document the PREVENTS the government from doing certain things to the people. Quote "the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties." Unquote. This is a man that thinks it's perfectly ok and in fact, desireable, for the government to steal your money and give it to other people, in the name of redistributive wealth.. or put simply, take from the rich and give to the poor...(or anyone else that he decides can use your money better than you can.)
He is a Socialist/Communist through and through, and is trying with all his might to transform our Country into another ?what? Cuba? Russia?. He really believes that we, the people, are only here to serve the government, and he has, by executive orders, already taken away many of our freedoms. Don't believe it? Do your homework. Look at what the government now has control of since his election. Start with the tiny thing like offshore fishing bans. Then look at what he's done to the farmers, telling them what they can and cannot plant, then look at the banks, then industry, etc etc. He's moving the government into a position where they control us completely, where we have to be dependant on them for our daily crumbs of bread, and all the while they live high on the hog with our money. This traitor must go.
I'm 100% with Willy on this one... I don't care if it's Satan himself, I'll vote for whoever is running against that lying, traitorous excuse for a president that's in the white house right now.

[reelapeelin]

What I'm saying is it doesn't matter if there is a Socialist or a Constitutionalist in the White House, every seat in Congress and even every bench of the judiciary...it simply doesn't matter...the grape juice being sold from both sides of the aisle is formulated to keep all of us divided...if our attention is diverted to the discussion and arguing of partisan ideology, THEY get to raid the coffers all they want...nobody's watching the true theft of our rights, money and lifestyle while we're fighting each other...what's wrong w/America AIN'T POLITICS...has NOTHING to do w/Socialism, The Constitution or any of that...drink the partisan grape juice if you wanna...it ain't gonna solve anything...only prolong the parasitic death of our freedom.

Like I said...gimme a valid candidate that deserves my vote and I'll RUSH to the polls to unseat Barack...but I won't vote for Newt Gingrich aka the Insider's Poster Boy...I will vote against him.

[bradford]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

In those brief sentences we see, clearly, that Obama thinks that the Constitution is NOT a document giving the people certain rights, but rather it is a document the PREVENTS the government from doing certain things to the people.

I don't care if it's Satan himself, I'll vote for whoever is running against that lying, traitorous excuse for a president that's in the white house right now.

Not picking a fight, just making a point. The constitution does not give me any rights whatsoever, my rights are given to me from God. The constitution is the government's agreement to not take away certain rights. People all the time like to say "I have a constitutional right...!" I'd much rather have my rights granted from my Creator than a bunch of politicians, founding fathers or not. Same way with the term "civil rights". These are rights granted by the people to other people. The people can stick the civil rights they grant me where the sun don't shine. I have my God given natural rights which include the right to use necessary force to defend myself and my rights. The government sometimes likes to disagree about this and envokes tyranny to a certain degree or another to keep us from feeling too empowered with our God given natural rights. Don't give the tyrants any more credit than what they deserve. The government has what we allow them to have or what they steal from us.

Ted Nugent touches on this subject in the first couple of minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/v/T_QjEL0uUgo...</param><param
Too bad he supports the NRA which disagrees with his position.

I know you're probably joking, but don't vote for Satan, it's all coming down to the forces of good vs evil in the end anyway. No sense in giving them a leg up on us.

[reelapeelin]

Originally Posted by willy

My friend, I know you and I do not agree on a lot of things politically, but I do wish to say one thing to you from the bottom of my heart.
I don't care if Donald Duck is the opposing candidate and he wants to run Elmer Fudd as a VP, that is who we will have to vote for, maybe holding our nose, but that has been life in this nation for as long as I can remember.
To do otherwise is to doom our nation, voting for the Obama will be sticking a knife in the heart of our country and he will transform it into a socialist state.
That will be the only possible result of that vote for him and I know you see that he has done more to steal the liberties and defile our Constitution than anyone in history. His problem is not just the corruption as usual or actually as he has taken to a much higher level, it is his ideology of a Marxist State that is the higher danger.
The "People" that are spoken of so highly in the Constitution must make a stand here and now, no Marxism, no Giant Federal Government that controls all.
A vote for Obama will be the destruction of our Nation as we know it. Anyone can see it, we all know it.
Please think very hard about your last post, thats all I am going to say about it.
And I pray that others will see it to.

Well, Old Buddy...I don't believe for one minute that Obama or anybody else can turn this country into a
socialist State in 4 years or any amount of time...me and a whole bunch of others simply won't allow it to happen...not to mention the Republican controlled Congress is well entrenched to stop any serious moves in that direction...it just ain't gonna happen...as Bradford's pic points out, the real deamon that IS chewing away at The American Way of Life is 24/7 working hard to strip all the power and influence you and I have to shape the country into OUR best interests...putting Newt into the White House ithe epitamy of sending the fox to guard the hen house...he has been personally raiding Washington for every nickel he can squeeze out of it for the past 30 years while cloaking himself as a PUBLIC SERVANT...he is selling your vote to any and everybody he can...he's become an EXPERT at it...give him the switches and buttons he'll have access to from 1600 Penn Ave and the flood gates will open as never before...and every dollar flows through is YOURS...and the loss of YOUR INFLUENCE as a result of that power drain will be unpresedented...he is a very smart man...knows his stuff...talks a good game...right here in my hometown of Spartanbug SC, he made everybody on stage at Wofford College look like abject rookies when talking about foreign policy and gov't matters in general...and his numbers started rising as a result...and he has one goal in mind and that is to accumulate as much personal wealth as he possibly can at the expense of you and me w/out regard for our and our children's well being...

There is no doubt in my mind the greater, more immediate threat to you and me is political corruption among our lawmakers, far exceeding any realistic threat or possibility of our nation becoming Marxist...this ain't POLITICS...it's criminal; it's treason and needs to be stopped.