V21 for sale in NJ....Pricy, but..

[Blue_Runner]

Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner

Some good points brought up in this thread. I think it is good that everyone stated their opinions. It is kind of like "ask the audience" on who wants to be a millionaire. A lot of times when people disagree they are both wrong and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. In the future when someone comes to this site to assess the value of a V20/21 they will be able to see all opinions and formulate thier own.

That said, a single stand-alone post saying "this boat is too high" might by itself influence the percieved value to a future buyer. However, that post coupled with opinions from other posters to the contrary and such will minimize that effect. In essence, the percieved value falls more toward the middle. What I'm saying is none of us are right, but our opinions together average out to the right answer....or something like that (wtf am I talking about???).

As you all are aware, almost any boat you buy is a poor financial investment. You have to know that going into it. I have over 16k in my boat after repowering with a new motor, additions/upgrades and not planning on selling it (unless somebody will trade out/sell me a pimped out Seacraft Sceptre with 225hp 4stroke + on a bracket....still waiting).

Crap, now I've done gone and talked a potential V21 buyer into buying a Seacraft instead.......chit!!!

Hey " your honor" ....... I respectfully reject your ruling that " none of us are right."
Eventually nearly all of us sell our boat, and at that time, I bet none of us would appreciate comments such as " pricey" when we're asking a proven fair market price for our rig.
I say........if you're not buying, leave the sellers post alone or send him a private email if you have a strong opinion that you feel compelled to share.....better than hurting his ability to sell it with negative comments.
As for the Seacraft Sceptre - I'd love to get one. A great boat based on everything I know, and fairly hard to find one in excellent condition..........that is.....for a " fair price" !!!!ha ha.

[reelapeelin]

The way I see it is this...we can all have our own OPINIONS regarding the VALUE of this boat or that boat....and until somebody w/the cash steps up and BUYS it, an OPINION is all it is...these Vs we love around here, in the end are worth only what somebody is willing to actually PAY for....I have a certain respect for bgreene's wish to protect his perceived value of his boat, but I also understand and agree w/BR's point of view as well...none of us is right or wrong...until the cash hits the table...
When I was in the car business there was a saying; There's an a$$ for every seat...holds true for boats too...

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by reelapeelin

The way I see it is this...we can all have our own OPINIONS regarding the VALUE of this boat or that boat....and until somebody w/the cash steps up and BUYS it, an OPINION is all it is...these Vs we love around here, in the end are worth only what somebody is willing to actually PAY for.....

Reel, that's exactly what I meant when I said quote "Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not." unquote. When a person buys an item for $5.00 or $5oo,ooo, then that is what the item was actually worth, no matter what opinion someone else may have about the price.

I have to make a comment though. There have been many other posts where members have made comments about how they felt about the price of a boat that was listed for sale. None of them generated so much as a ripple from other menbers. This post though, no matter how I've tried to explain MY position, and why I felt that TO ME the boat was pricey, has generated a constant and sometimes sarcastic attack by bgreene against me and anyone else that agreed with me. I'd like to know why. Normally I'd do this with a PM, but since the attacks were many and in public I'll take the same route. Maybe I'm being thin-skinned, but truthfully this has left a real bad taste in my mouth.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Reel, that's exactly what I meant when I said quote "Anywhere in between is up to the buyer to make the call about if he thinks the price was fair or not." unquote. When a person buys an item for $5.00 or $5oo,ooo, then that is what the item was actually worth, no matter what opinion someone else may have about the price.

I have to make a comment though. There have been many other posts where members have made comments about how they felt about the price of a boat that was listed for sale. None of them generated so much as a ripple from other menbers. This post though, no matter how I've tried to explain MY position, and why I felt that TO ME the boat was pricey, has generated a constant and sometimes sarcastic attack by bgreene against me and anyone else that agreed with me. I'd like to know why. Normally I'd do this with a PM, but since the attacks were many and in public I'll take the same route. Maybe I'm being thin-skinned, but truthfully this has left a real bad taste in my mouth.

Difference of opinion:
I think posting on a public forum that another guys listing is pricey can only hurt his chance to sell his boat. It's like "warning sellers to beware"..... and his price isn't even high to begin with.

You came back to me saying I should " stop the rhetoric" however that applies I don't know.

Lastly, I believe pounding down on another guys listing as I believe you also did on the Ohio V for sale just serves to diminish perceived value of these boats.

That's all. Long live the V's ! Priceless ! Collector's items ! Discontinued model ! Do I hear $ 50,000......that's $ 50,000 for a rare V in excellent condition........$ 55,000 from the gentleman in the back !!!!