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Here are the pictures I promised. Unfortunatly mother nature has other plans than me cleaning out the interior of the boat. I was able to pull out all the old wood seating, engine cover and cabin uphulstry and spray it all down with the hose. I was able to unclog the rear drain plug and oh my lord how the water rolled out. Got to get this stuff cleaned up! Clean pictures to follow when the rain stops falling!
Need a new winch and stop for the bow, rust coming out on the bow ring.  This is the only hull damage on the boat I've spotted do far.  Some hull shots follow, the gel coat just seems gone, and the paint is powdering off on my hands.         More to follow. 
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03-04-2011, 07:01 PM
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The nessecary bow shot
 A few of the metal parts look like this on the hull. The windshield and glass look good.  Shots of the Cuddy damage.   A view of my beautiful deck.  Thru deck pics    Fuel tank 
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03-04-2011, 07:03 PM
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Now the horrid horrid part of my purchase!
    
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03-05-2011, 08:01 AM
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The "horrid, horrid" part...remove it all and after that, you won't believe the relief you'll feel and how much easier it'll make your restoration...
 You mention the gelcoat gone...not at all...just oxidized as expected of one neglected in the sun over time...3M makes an oxidation remover & hull restorer that'll have her lookin' like new...go ahead and pick up a buffer ($25 at Harbour Freight) and save a lot of elbow grease...thanks for all the great pics...just to prove it can be done, here's my previous 21 the day I bought it   And her's the same boat the next day...    Yeah...I's just kiddin' about the next day thing....LOL!!...Lookin forward to seein' the progression on yours...it'll all be worth it the 1st time you shove that throttle forward and yer cruisin' across the water...
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'74 V-20/ BF 150 '95 V-21/ BF 150 '84 V-20/ 200 2.4 Merc '87 V-20/'18 F150 Yamaha 
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03-05-2011, 04:21 PM
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Had the local shade tree mechanic come over. He used to work in Corpus Christi on marine engines, electrical and even did freelance upholstery. HAH! Well he saw my wife at the bar she works at and asked if we got the boat, and was downright excited to come over and look at the engine. He looked at it about 3 minutes on the outside, asked a few questions, played with the throttle, steering, looked inside the carb... "Oh yea, we'll get this thing unseized and working no problem, I've done lots like this before, I'll be back tomorrow when its warmer, WD-40 the entire engine outside and pour half a bottle of Marvell Mystery Oil into the carb. We will put the other half in the spark plug ports tomorrow."
Well I cant beat that with a stick, "So friend whats your rate?" "Oh I cant make the lady that serves me beer hurt, how about we don't do a rate and every 4 hours I put in on a day or around that we call it $50, and some beers here and there" Well I cant beat that with an automatic beating device! Why are people so afraid of these engines? I's just and old GM. GM is GM right? Or are we talking about all the other parts that end up attached to the block? And couldnt the block be modified to accept these parts?
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03-06-2011, 05:13 PM
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Well today I had the local shade tree mechanic come over. Yesterday per his instructions I put a full pint of Marvell Mystery Oil down into the carb. Today he came out with a pipe wrench and put it on the harmonic balancer. He stepped on it one way, stepped on it the other way. She broke loose. 5 minutes. WD-40 into the ports, and about 10 more minutes of turning and the girl turns freely. The starter is dead. Put a new battery in it, there is no key so we jumped across the solenoid. It clicks, we turned the engine by hand while jumping the starter and it started making a trying noise but it wont crank her over. Sprayed down the bilge and engine with engine degreaser, going to pressure wash out the inside of the boat and the below decks region so I can see what I'm working with and so we can work on the under part of the engine without living in 2 inches of grease.
I cleaned the boat exterior today. Before After  Before After  Before After 
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03-06-2011, 05:38 PM
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Awesome progress... I knew that outside was gonna clean up big time....looked really pristine under that grime.....good luck with that motor for $50 bucks a day and some beer its worth some effort to at least see what you got.
Keep the pics coming
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03-06-2011, 05:39 PM
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Looking inside the engine it looks brand new on the interior. From what I understand I need a marine grade starter. How will I know what starter to put on this boat? I cant take it to the auto parts store and we dont have a marine supplier around here. I know they sell starters on Ebay, does it have to be a specific starter or does it have to match the engine?
 text says... "c103 GM 6269132 N1 Firing Order 165432" 4.3L V6 OMC
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03-06-2011, 05:47 PM
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We worked the steering loose today too, really good start. The trim isnt seized up and like I said we broke the steering loose. Greased up the lower unit. The prop shaft turns easily, very easily, I put my ear to the lower unit while turning and I could hear the gears working. Smooth sounding. We were wondering why the steering was so hard to turn. After we did that we sat and pondered the next steps on the engine. While sitting my guy (Kevin) says to himself well I can go ahead and take that power steering pump off... DUHH, figured out why the steering was so tight! If we can get her to turn over and run (points look good) we are planning on a new carb, alternator and starter. He says to price them off of a 79' Impala. Thoughts fellas?
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03-06-2011, 05:56 PM
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Its not the engine thats the problem, its the drive that theres nothing available for. On your starter, it will either have a long bolt/short bolt or it will have two long bolts holding it in place. I can't remeber which one gioes to which flywheel , but keep the same bolt pattern and you'll be OK. You can get a new starter from ebasicpower.com or boats.com . If it were me, I'd have a local starter shop look at teh starter to see if its worth saving. Not knowing teh conditon of the engine, I'd raterh not drop teh cash on a marine starter just to find out the motor is junk, expolain your situation to the guys at the starter shop, they may be able to help you out. From the pics I see, ther isn't an anode above hte antiventaltion plate. That means you have a hydromechanical drive. Do not try to shift it with out the motor running, it will mess up the shift cable. If it happens to actually shift, consider yourself lucky. Form what IO see on your boat, I'd be awlful temted to look or an outboard bracket and redo the transom, you'll be happier in the long run
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