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    • (3) the date of birth of the licensed individual;
    • (4) a license number, unique to each licensed individual;
    • (5) the expiration date of the license, which shall be the date that is 5 years after the initial anniversary of the date of birth of the licensed individual following the date on which the license is issued (or in the case of a license renewal, following the date on which the license is renewed under section 104);
    • (6) the signature of the licensed individual provided on the application, or a facsimile of the application; and
    • (7) centered at the top of the license, capitalized, and in boldface type, the following:
  • `FIREARM LICENSE--NOT VALID FOR ANY OTHER PURPOSE'.
SEC. 104. RENEWAL OF LICENSE.

  • (a) Application for Renewal-
    • (1) IN GENERAL- In order to renew a firearm license issued under this title, not later than 30 days before the expiration date of the license, the licensed individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under paragraph (3)), in a form approved by the Attorney General, an application for renewal of the license.
    • (2) CONTENTS- An application submitted under paragraph (1) shall include--
      • (A) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;
      • (B) current proof of identity of the licensed individual; and
      • (C) the address of the licensed individual.
    • (3) REGULATIONS GOVERNING SUBMISSION- The Attorney General shall promulgate regulations specifying procedures for the submission of applications under this subsection.
  • (b) Issuance of Renewed License- Upon approval of an application submitted under subsection (a) of this section, the Attorney General shall issue a renewed license, which shall meet the requirements of section 103(c), except that the license shall include the current photograph and address of the licensed individual, as provided in the application submitted under this section, and the expiration date of the renewed license, as provided in section 103(c)(5).
SEC. 105. REVOCATION OF LICENSE.

  • (a) In General- If an individual to whom a license has been issued under this title subsequently becomes a person who is prohibited by subsection (g) or (n) of section 922 of title 18, United States Code, from receiving a firearm--
    • (1) the license is revoked; and
    • (2) the individual shall promptly return the license to the Attorney General.
  • (b) Administrative Action- Upon receipt by the Attorney General of notice that an individual to whom a license has been issued under this title has become a person described in subsection (a), the Attorney General shall ensure that the individual promptly returns the license to the Attorney General.
TITLE II--RECORD OF SALE OR TRANSFER

SEC. 201. SALE OR TRANSFER REQUIREMENTS FOR QUALIFYING FIREARMS.

  • Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by section 101 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  • `(bb) Unauthorized Sale or Transfer of a Qualifying Firearm- It shall be unlawful for any person to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer a qualifying firearm to, or for, any person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, or to receive a qualifying firearm from a person who is not a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, unless, at the time and place of the transfer or receipt--
    • `(1) the transferee presents to a licensed dealer a valid firearm license issued to the transferee--
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      • `(A) under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009; or
      • `(B) pursuant to a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 established by the State in which the transfer or receipt occurs;
    • `(2) the licensed dealer contacts the Attorney General or the head of the State agency that administers the certified system described in paragraph (1)(B), as applicable, and receives notice that the transferee has been issued a firearm license described in paragraph (1) and that the license remains valid; and
    • `(3) the licensed dealer records on a document (which, in the case of a sale, shall be the sales receipt) a tracking authorization number provided by the Attorney General or the head of the State agency, as applicable, as evidence that the licensed dealer has verified the validity of the license.'.
SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.

  • (a) Submission of Sale or Transfer Reports- Not later than 14 days after the date on which the transfer of qualifying firearm is processed by a licensed dealer under section 922(bb) of title 18, United States Code (as added by section 201 of this Act), the licensed dealer shall submit to the Attorney General (or, in the case of a licensed dealer located in a State that has a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of this Act, to the head of the State agency that administers that system) a report of that transfer, which shall include information relating to--
    • (1) the manufacturer of the firearm;
    • (2) the model name or number of the firearm;
    • (3) the serial number of the firearm;
    • (4) the date on which the firearm was received by the transferee;
    • (5) the number of a valid firearm license issued to the transferee under title I of this Act; and
    • (6) the name and address of the individual who transferred the firearm to the transferee.
  • (b) Federal Record of Sale System- Not later than 9 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system, which shall include the information included in each report submitted to the Attorney General under subsection (a).
  • (c) Elimination of Prohibition on Establishment of System of Registration- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the second sentence.
TITLE III--ADDITIONAL PROHIBITIONS

SEC. 301. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECK REQUIREMENT.

  • Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101 and 201 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  • `(cc) Universal Background Check Requirement-
    • `(1) REQUIREMENT- Except as provided in paragraph (2), it shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to sell, deliver, or otherwise transfer a firearm to any person other than such a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with subsection (t).
    • `(2) EXCEPTION- Paragraph (1) shall not apply to the infrequent transfer of a firearm by gift, bequest, intestate succession or other means by an individual to a parent, child, grandparent, or grandchild of the individual, or to any loan of a firearm for any lawful purpose for not more than 30 days between persons who are personally known to each other.'.
SEC. 302. FAILURE TO MAINTAIN OR PERMIT INSPECTION OF RECORDS.

  • Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, and 301 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  • `(dd) Failure To Maintain or Permit Inspection of Records- It shall be unlawful for a licensed manufacturer or a licensed dealer to fail to comply with section 202 of Blair Holt's Handgun Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009, or to maintain such records or supply such information as the Attorney General may require in order to ascertain compliance with such Act and the regulations and orders issued under such Act.'.
SEC. 303. FAILURE TO REPORT LOSS OR THEFT OF FIREARM.

  • Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, 301, and 302 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  • `(ee) Failure To Report Loss or Theft of Firearm- It shall be unlawful for any person who owns a qualifying firearm to fail to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours after the loss or theft is discovered.'.
SEC. 304. FAILURE TO PROVIDE NOTICE OF CHANGE OF ADDRESS.

  • Section 922 of title 18, United States Code, as amended by sections 101, 201, 301, 302, and 303 of this Act, is amended by adding at the end the following:
  • `(ff) Failure To Provide Notice of Change of Address- It shall be unlawful for any individual to whom a firearm license has been issued under title I of Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 to fail to report to the Attorney General a change in the address of that individual within 60 days of that change of address.'.
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There are already laws in place that prohibit minors, the mentally incompetent and criminals form possessing firearms.
NOW this is a bill designed to make law abiding citizens ALLOWED to posses a firearm.
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There are already laws in place that prohibit minors, the mentally incompetent and criminals form possessing firearms.
NOW this is a bill designed to make law abiding citizens ALLOWED to posses a firearm.
thats pretty much what it comes down to, they should concentrate on making the penalties harsher for those who break the law than for those who abide. i cant wait untill i need a liscense for my fishing reels and poles.
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You're right Tsubaki that it is the gunowner, and not the gun, which needs the license. I presume, however, that the gunowner would need a license for each qualifying firearm as defined in the act. I am not a gunowner (although I have no beef with law abiding persons owning guns whatsoever), so I am confused as to what qualifies as a qualifying firearm. The handgun part I understand, but the other part, i.e. "(ii) any semiautomatic firearm that can accept any detachable ammunition feeding device", means nothing to me. Is the bill only aimed at machine gun type weapons or is the definition much broader? Would the definition apply to common hunting rifles and shotguns?

Curious as to what you folks think of lawsuits against the gun manufacturers. The City of Gary, Indiana recently sued gunmakers, and the suit survived a Motion to Dismiss. Gary is or used to be the "murder capitol of the United States", and I guess the powers that be in Gary partially blame the gun manufacturers. I, personally, think the lawsuit is BS
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it seems that they would consider all guns with detetchable mags, even hunting rifles. keep in mind that a .308 caliber in an AR-15 platform makes for a popular hunting arm.

With the lawsuit it shows that people do not accept personal responsibilty for anything there. Why dont they sue car companies and fast food restauraunts in the city. It comes down to the fact that no one owns up anymore and that everyone else is to blame.
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In most EVERY instance this bill applies to every gun owner.
First, ANY pistol.
Then ANY detachable magazine. This includes squirrel hunting rimfires to turkey shotguns to elephant killing firearms.
The term "antique" doesn't apply to stuff over 20 years old, like automobiles. Problematically "antique" will refer to reproductions of firearms made in the 1800's or newer, made this year (2009) that are capable of the same rounds per minute of "modern" firearms. And lets not get into antique pistols, "it's an antique" but "it's a pistol".
Machine guns are (have been since the 1930's) already regulated out of the general populations availability.
Read the bill, it sounds great to someone with no idea of the design of the Constitution. This bill would require you to be qualified to be licensed to own a firearm (in actually 2 of the 4 types ever developed) which currently is guaranteed in the second amendment.
You MUST be disqualified for possession of a firearm NOT qualified. Meaning by today's standards, underage, mentally incompetent or a criminal.
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This is exactly what many were promised (Brady Foundation, The United Nations Universal Gun Ban, a dozen other Socialist and extreme liberal organizations)
The title of this post is spot on, this man is a socialist, he follows a completely socialist agenda and the nation of our fore fathers and the liberties they fought for are in complete jepoardy.
This is not about change, this is not about democrat vs republican, this is about American vs socialist.
People need to see this for what it is
Thats all I am going to say about it, I am disgusted with what we have allowed to happen and can't do more than vote and call my Peoples Republic of NJ senators and congressmen, who are some of his most ardent suck arses.
God help us all.
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