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Unread 10-31-2008, 10:49 AM
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Blue, what a piece of propaganda crap. By the way, there will never, and i mean never ever, be a cure for aids.
Anybody except blue and billy mac buy into that crap?
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Im not getting into it heavy, but as far as corn being the answer...ITS NOT. It affects way too much...it may help on gas but you pay out the azz for lots of other stuff. Farmers are certainly feeling it....I payed out the azz for seeds and fetilizer this year to plant food plots for deer....roughly double compared to years past. Even liquor has gone up due to distillery costs for corn....God help me if I become a drunk.
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Any conflict is hell on the civilian populations, innocent victims, I would certainly not argue that Blue.
Saddam Hussein killed more people than that when he came to power, and over the many years he was in power many times that died.
They did not die in an effort to free a society, they died in a dictators power hungry lust for absolute power.
Vietnam is not our best work, the advancement of communism was the issue of the day and we did apparently what we thought we needed to do. I lost friends and spent my teen age years fearing what was going to happen to me as fellow students went off and died.
My point to you is this, when you say things in the way you did it implies that the US desires or the troops ignore the possibility that innocents will perish. In fact we are one of the few nations in the history of this planet to make the issue of civilian loss paramount in our operations, even to the point where our troops are in jeapordy.
You will never avoid the loss of civilian life, as a matter of fact if you go to that area of the world and all over Africa many times that number perish constantly in struggles in which brutal men are in charge. I bet if you asked them if they wanted us to help you would hear the pleading from here.
Sorry as it is the nature of man on this planet is often brutal, you will have conflicts, you need to be strong, you need a wise and tough leader who has been in those trenches and knows what it means when you send our troops into harms way.
NoBama has not the slightest clue, all he has is a egotistical elitetist agenda and you might want to step away from the fray and reconsider who and what you want to be aligned with, and why.
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Can't speak for BLUE, but I don't want to be aligned w/one who LIES to the population about the need to go to war...maybe BLUE'S point is, had we not bought the lie, those civilians wouldn't have died...or at least not by our hand...

...and while we're at it, I get tired of hearin' about tax and spend liberals...when W's tossin 10 Billion a month down the rat-hole we never shoulda been in...I think they call that "lie and spend"...

Reckon how much W's made thru Haliburton since this thing took off??...
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Reckon how much W's made thru Haliburton since this thing took off??...
Don't forget AL GORE in that number either. He is also a major stock holder in HALIBURTON.
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Sorry, the point really is not how many perished in the elimination of what every single world power felt was an iminent threat, what every admisnistration since HW Bush including every single democrat candidate and the previous democratic embarassment, I mean president clinton stated verbatim "he is on a path to obtain if he has not already done so weapons of mass destruction and has designs on controlling the oil flow of the middle east" so your attempt to catagorize MCain as someone who is a war mongerer is as far off base as it gets.
The facts are pretty clear unless you have selective memory. Do I believe that the republican candidate is a perfect specimen, hell no. But putting a socialist in office in a free society is absolutey insane.
If you feel that what you want is a socialist state then NoBama is your man. If you feel that a man that lies thru his teeth every time he talks with you and when he does address people like us Ozzie he talks down to us is better than a John Mcain then so be it.
I dont want what I earn taken and the crumbs of what the government does not want given out to those that have not earned it.
You are starting a new company, you have a vision, your idea, and you are willing to risk your own money to make it happen. You are exactly the kind of man that NoBama wants to tax even heavier than they are now, my two nephews who work on Wall St are paying 44% of what they earn to the various governments now. That is Fu@&ing thievery. NoBama wants to take more of it.
Anyone in this country, and this is my opinion, that would vote for someone who tells you point blank he is going to tax you more than you are being ripped off for now, tells you he wants to expand EXPAND the federal government in any way needs his freaking head examined.
Anyone who has assosiated his entire adult life with the like of a murderer, bomber and extreme socialist like Ayers and his wife
Has assosiated with a mininister like Wright for twenty years, called him his mentor and close friend, one who teaches black theology version or rather perversion of the good book
Someone who has assosiated with a PLO leader back when they were a full blown terrorist organization
Had his Harvard Law school payed for by a man who also used his influence to get him in to the school, a Sheik and supporter of terrorism worldwide
These are only some of the assosiations which he has repeatedly lied about and every single news agency in this country knows about it and has not reported on it. Like Tony Rezko.
My sweet Lord, this is a walking piece of sh!t, how an American can even consider voting for him is beyond belief.
John Mccain is not perfect but he is an American first and foremost, he has fought for us, for our country and suffered horribly for it. He has always tried to do the right thing and has never taken pac money, never once forced earmarks into a bill, and will stand up for the constitution which Nobama says is a imperfect document that needs to be changed, and that the Warren Court did not come close to doing enough, they did not discuss the imperfection of redistribution of wealth for example.
God please help us thru this
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Blue, you might want to check what party was in office and got us involved in Viet Nam. Can you say Democrats (Kennedy and Johnson). 53,000 US servicemen dead. I think the congressional majority was Democratic. It's what happens when you let congress run the war and not the Generals.
Seacrets, I'm not saying the democrats weren't to blame...just saying that we should have learned something from the experience and try not to REPEAT for heavens sake.
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Blue, what a piece of propaganda crap. By the way, there will never, and i mean never ever, be a cure for aids.
Anybody except blue and billy mac buy into that crap?
Never, ever doesn't seem so far away.....

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