Why I'm voting Democrat

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killing more innocent civilians

Wow

Have we or have we not killed innocent civilians by the thousands? I take it you don't think we have.

I'm interested to hear your point of view Willy...

Wikepedia - Iraqi civilian casualties
full link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualt...ian_casualties

Iraqi civilians have suffered the bulk of fatalities in this conflict. Estimates of Iraqi civilian casualties are highly disputed. It is difficult for most estimates of Iraqi casualties to separate civilian from combatant casualties. Various estimates are discussed below, and elsewhere in this article. See also the section on total Iraqi casualties.
For the major combat phase of the war from March***8211;April 2003, Abu Dhabi TV reported on April 8, 2003 that Iraqi sources had claimed that 1,252 civilians had been killed and 5,103 had been wounded. The Iraq Body Count project, incorporating subsequent reports, has reported that by the end of the major combat phase up to April 30, 2003, 7,299 civilians had been killed, primarily by US air and ground forces.

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More wikepedia:

Full link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War_casualties

[edit] North Vietnam

According to the Vietnamese government, 1,100,000 North Vietnamese Army and National Front for the Liberation of Vietnam military personnel died in the conflict.[1] (Technically, some of these dead were South Vietnamese members of the NLF, but it would be impossible to separate their constituency from the total.) Estimates of civilian deaths caused by American bombing in Operation Rolling Thunder range from 52,000[2] to 182,000.[3] Complete statistics for the 1972 bombings are unavailable. Overall figures for North Vietnamese civilian dead range from 50,000[2] to "several million."[4]

[edit] South Vietnam

The Army of the Republic of Vietnam ARVN lost approximately 184,000 servicemen during the war,[2] with some estimates as high as a quarter of a million.[5] Because it was the country most devastated by the war, South Vietnam suffered the bulk of the estimated 500,000[6] to 2,000,000[1] civilian deaths sustained by the entire Vietnamese population during the conflict; out of a possible median of 1,200,000 dead for the whole country,[6] considering the above figures for North Vietnamese losses, in South Vietnam itself about one million civilians likely died.