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Cterre, maybe the reason you're not seeing many Etecs in your shop is there aren't many in the field. Somebody has to buy them for you to work on them. If this board is an indicator, there are only a few Etec owners here. Maybe Evinrude should compare an Etec 2 stroke to a Yamaha or Mercury 2 stroke. I think the results may be a little different. I think you'll see that Yamaha has many more four stroke outboards in the field than Evinrude Etecs. Unfortunately, the Fichts put them in a hole and their market share dropped. What I see is it's a four stroke marketplace with Yamaha, Suzuki, Verado, and Honda. I do however think BRP is trying to do it right, especially with warranty issues. I think it's difficult to give a 5 yr warranty when Etecs haven't been on the market that long. In my area of Florida, 90% of the guides are running Yamahas, some with upwards of 3000 hrs on them. A friend recently removed a Yamaha 2 stroke (with no major repairs) from his boat with 4800 hrs on it. I know Evinrude makes a statement about no maintenance for 300 hrs, what about the typical guy that puts 50 hrs a year on an outboard? Six yrs w/o maintenance, could that be true? This post is just my $.02. When it comes down to it, it's a matter of good dealer and factory backup and personal preference. It is nice to keep the business in the USA, however, guess where the final money goes, Canada.
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10-03-2008, 10:27 AM
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just to correct some statements seacrets. brp's intentions were never to say they were other 2-stroke slayers, their main goal was to show that 4-strokes are gods gift to the outboard world. That people do have alternatives. also we sell yam's and brp's here. we sell about 3 etec's to every yamaha. for our case dealing with our customers in the market we see more problems with yamaha's.
all this talk about how e-tecs havent been out for a while is not completely accurate. they have had the same theory out behind their injection system since the fichts came into the market.(etec has been out since 04) E-tec is just the evoloution of ficht technology. also its 3yrs or 300 hours which ever arrives first. i have owned yamaha's and omc/brp's and merc's on various boats. they all eventually will give you an issue, just make sure you have someone who is knowledgeable to fix them. like you said seacrets warranty and service. the corporate income tax might be collected in canada but it does create jobs in US.
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10-03-2008, 02:57 PM
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Hey Spare!!...one of us considered Honda on a repower
 
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10-03-2008, 03:45 PM
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those are a rare sight down here, I don't hear anything bad about them, just don't see that many, heard they had a new 90? that had the best power to weight ratio for any 4 stroke, i haven't seen one.
And back to the issue, try to sell a used e-tec aournd here, vs a a used Yamaha, your phone will ring off the hook for the Yamaha, you won't get a call on the e-tec. personally like I said, opti first, then zuki 175, then yamah 150. I've run them all.
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10-03-2008, 07:58 PM
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My Johnson, which is sold by BRP (a Canadian company) says "made in Japan" right on the serial number plate.
OK, so all you guys talking junk about my rice burner fess up, how many of you own a Toyota, Honda, Nissan, etc, car or truck?
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10-03-2008, 11:14 PM
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I just filled my tank today and my F115 Yamaha averaged 5.9 mpg (19.2 gal and 113 miles). My skiff (23') is light so I don't need alot of hp. It will still top out at 40-42 mph. To me, its a matter of economics, I get to fish alot more for the same cost as my V20 w/ a 150 HP Merc saltwater series on it. The 113 miles represents two fishing trips this week and I'm going again tomorrow. We also have an outstanding Yamaha dealer in our area with a good parts inventory and an excellent service dept.
One thing I don't think anybody mentioned, when repowering with a new motor, you might have spent double what your boat is worth. If you sell in a couple of years, you might take a bath on the sale. If I lived in the north with a short boating season, I don't know if I'd repower with new. That's a lotta money to be setting under a tarp part of the year. Maybe a good topic might be "How many hours did you boat this year". Is the number more or less than last year? There's no doubt, Etec, Optis, Verados (supercharged) and four strokes are the way to go, if you're looking for modern technology and economy.
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10-04-2008, 09:10 PM
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10-04-2008, 10:34 AM
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Time to beat feet around town...I gotta think there's a dealer in that size market who'll work w/you...even if you could buy from Ed's, you're still gonna have to take it somewhere for service eventually...they are obligated to work on 'em no matter where you got it, but you'll probably be put in the back of the line if you got it from somebody else...can't really blame 'em...
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10-04-2008, 12:29 PM
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If the boat you have is in good shape and you like then keep it!!
You never know what you are going to get when you start looking And motors go thru a lot of stuff weather they are 20 years old or 1 year old!! I have a 84 Sea Ox now, I am in love with it and believe it will be the last boat I will ever own!! I don't have the cash right now so I have added used power to it, but I hope at some point I will add a brand new motor to it!! Much better then buying new package, for a V20 all new I bet you looking at $30K at least!!
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