need advice on used outboard purchase...

[THEFERMANATOR]

The EFI is easier to start, and runs a little smoother. Many say the carb motors are actually btter on fuel than the EFI, and they both use the same oil injection pump so oil consumption on oil injected models is the same. The EFI I have does have INCREDIBLE off idle performance compared to my 2.0L. I know my 2.5L 150 EFI burns 12-13 GPH on an 18' flats boat, I have a 2L 150 on a 17.6' bass boat that burns about 4-5 GPH at the same cruise speed and RPM's. The bass boat is lighter, but the 2.L is alot better IMO. The 2.0L will use a little more fuel at idle due to porting inside the engine, and the 2.5L has ALOT more torque.

[bsteckel]

wow, that is almost double the fuel consumption ... is there that much difference in weight between the 2 boats ?..

that 2.5 is 35 lbs heavier approx than the yamaha i am looking at .. and 40 lbs heavier than the 2.0 150 .. not a huge difference.but coming with controls and a ss prop, that is less things that i have to buy. unless the ss prop that came with my sea drive would fit, then the controls is the only difference.

but double the fuel consumption ... wow.

[THEFERMANATOR]

The bass boat weighs in at 800 pounds hull weight, my flats boat weighs in at 1400 pounds hull weight. They both run almost the same numbers at each RPM point, but the bass boat uses alot less fuel. It only has a 14 gallon tank in it, and I took it out one day for 2 1/2 hours and only burned 11 gallons running it the whole time on a river.

[bsteckel]

ok ... i just located a motor for sale about 8 miles from my house. it is a 1998 suzuki 200 hp 25" with stainless prop. the price is going to be real right.

not sure on the hours, etc .. would like to go take a look at it before i lose this one.

and also, the yamaha guy returned an email that maybe we can get together this week to look at his motor (1992 200hp).

what do you think about the suzuki? i have heard good things about them.

i also scored a stainless marine floatation bracket 26" setback.

things are starting to come together!!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

The SUZUKI will be back to a weight issue as all of the V-6 SUZUKI 2 strokes weigh in at 470+ pounds. Solid engine though, just make sure to check the lower unit for cracks in the exhaust area where the prop rides inside the lower. They have a problem with cracking through there, and are not repairable once it happens.

[bsteckel]

i thought i may be able to get away with the extra weight by getting a minimal set back bracket ..

i was reading builderfl's threads over the weekend .. do you know what motor he was running on his center console and the weight? the porpoising (sp?) issues seem hard to fix.

looked like a mercury 200, but not sure. it seems he was running quite a bit more set back than i will have. not sure how much difference this makes.

happy father's day to all the dads out there!!

[THEFERMANATOR]

BUILDERFL is running quite a bit of set back on his. IIRC he has a 30" setback with another 6 in his jack plate. I believe he has a 2.4L 200 MERC on the back, which is actually a few pounds lighter than a 2.0L 150 MERC(2.0L has steel sleeves, and the 2.4L's are aluminum coated with NICASIL or CHROME). The less set-back you go with the better. If that 200 SUZUKI checks out, it may not be a bad option. The SUZUKI's are supposed to be better on fuel at cruise compared to a MERC, but don't have the top end power of a MERC because of there lower RPM capability. I've been a SUZUKI fan for awhile as well, and wish I could have afforded that 225 and the fuel to go get it recently instead of rebuilding my 200 EVINRUDE.

[bsteckel]

well, just got back from looking at the suzuki .. a few problems .

the guy cut the wire harness .. not sure why .. and is not able to start or even turn the motor over. no idea of how many hours, compression readings ,etc.

also, there is a crack in the small fin (not sure what you call this piece) at the front of the motor .. is this cavatation plate???? it is the small one,not the biggest fin..

also a small piece missing from the skeg ...

biggest problem is even though the hood says 200 .. the model number is DT225 .. which is clearly not a 200 hp motor. i have the serial number, but not sure if it even is a 1998 or not.

does have ss prop, but he could not take it off for me to look for those cracks you were telling me about.

probably a wise decision to pass. i need to be patient here .. but that is not one of my strong qualities :)

[THEFERMANATOR]

The SUZUKI 150, 200, and 225 are all the same basic engine. Was this the engine on Ebay? How many spark plugs does it have? And what is the serial number? And also remember just because it has a prop with it(wether it be stainless or not), it doesn't neccesarily mean you can use it. Every boat has a different demand for what it needs in a prop as far as pitch, rake, cup and diameter.