January 6, 2021

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

That’s pretty simplistic thinking.

No scook - that’s what trump SAID .

Trump said he had absolute proof Obama wasn’t born on American land - and then trump presented NOTHING .

Nothing simplistic about it - just the FACT .

[scook]

The simplistic part is your thinking, which is why you understand nothing of the dynamics of the situations you so confidently profess your opinions about.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

The simplistic part is your thinking, which is why you understand nothing of the dynamics of the situations you so confidently profess your opinions about.

“ dynamics of the situation” scook uses as excuse for Trump again, and again …..
boring

[scook]

If you can’t appreciate the difference between a campaign statement, meant to squeeze something out of your opponent, who by the way was abjectly lying about Trump at the time, and flagrant lies from sitting members of congress, knowing full well that they were lying about the president, regarding an official (but fraudulent) investigation they were conducting, you don’t have the intellectual horsepower to conduct a reasonable of discussion.

I don’t make excuses for anyone.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

If you can’t appreciate the difference between a campaign statement, meant to squeeze something out of your opponent, who by the way was abjectly lying about Trump at the time, and flagrant lies from sitting members of congress, knowing full well that they were lying about the president, regarding an official (but fraudulent) investigation they were conducting, you don’t have the intellectual horsepower to conduct a reasonable of discussion.

I don’t make excuses for anyone.

“ no intellectual horsepower “ says scook .
Hahahaha now you are funny - you’re a funny guy !!

[scook]

You’ll probably know when I’m being funny. I’m very seriously concerned about the horrible condition of the country, and able to look at the larger picture. I’m disgusted by the destructiveness of the far left’s agenda and their idiotic lack of understanding of the consequences of what they’re doing. These are the people you support and make excuses for, e.g. Biden and his influencers.

They spend enormous amounts of money irresponsibly at levels we won’t be able to legitimately repay.

They press sexual agendas that are far from reasonable, project them on children FAR to young for such things to be remotely age appropriate, arrogantly declare that parents need to butt out and enlist the FBI to investigate parents complaining at school board meetings as domestic terrorists. They force an insanely liberal viewpoint down the throats of students and ridicule any student who dares to challenge the propaganda.

They adopt what you accuse Trump of wanting to do - a truth commission. Square that with the Constitution you profess to value deeply.

They actively support chronic violence and destruction by far left groups, e.g. BLM and ANTIFA. I don’t know about your area, but here in Portland and spilling out to previously VERY safe surrounding communities, crime is rampant and filthy, unsafe homeless camps are spreading.

They gleefully squashed our energy independence, leaving us at the mercy of the Russians, Saudis, Venezuelans, Iran, pretty much all of the oil producers who hate us and want us all dead. But, hey, let’s make fossil fuel energy so expensive that everyone buys electric cars - the little people who actually die of cold in the winter because they can’t afford heating fuel, even if many of them are democrats, are expendable. It’s fine to tax the poor egregiously with their inflation policies.

If you don’t see what the people you support are doing to the country, you truly don’t have the intellectual horsepower to be part of the discussion and certainly not part of the solution.

You keep up your good work, obsessing over Trump’s, Republican’s and conservative’s flaws, completely ignoring the glaring, traitorous, dishonest, destructive behavior of the people in power right now, who you support. I’ll be grateful for, flawed as he may be, Trump’s overall excellent execution of the presidency, Elon Musk for stepping up in an epic way to protect free speech and rational, honest, non-far left people in and running for office and all of us voting for them all over the country.

[bgreene]

For a guy who claimed to be “ too busy doing real work” to view the news on McCarthys lie - you sure have enough time to post non stop.
Me - I don’t make excuses .

Yes, Trump was reportedly very angry about the riots in the wake of George Floyd’s murder by police . He reportedly wanted to send in our military to end it .
He said he was the “ law and order President .”

Then, when he LOST the election, he encouraged the violence that occurred at our Capitol, and purposefully delayed and delayed for hours speaking up to HIS followers to stop the attack.
Trumps ONLY law and order for his agenda and will encourage Americans to attack each other for HIS agenda .

[scook]

For a guy who doesn’t make excuses, you’ve sure made enough of them for Biden.

Trump was very much a law and order president - he sent federal agents to protect federal facilities and the lives of federal employees when Portland political hacks wouldn’t ALLOW our local police to provide ANY protection and deputized state and local law enforcement officers as federal agents to assist. The local despicable hacks howled like squashed cats and now, in the officer shortage crisis caused by their defunding, disrespecting and prosecuting the police they are lying about what happened in an attempt to rehire Portland officers who retired early to get out of the dishonest, malicious mess they had made of the police bureau. But they still classify those who “helped the fed’s attack our citizens” ineligible for rehire - yes, Trump was a law and order president in the face of your people abandoning honest, useful, non-violent citizens to the far left terrorists and criminal opportunists.

Did he encourage a vigorous demonstration, certainly. Did he direct his supporters to use violence, absurd. Go ahead and re-quote “fight like hell” a phrase so common in politics that taking it the way you do is mindless. Should he have spoken up more quickly, I think probably so, but neither you nor I know the particulars of what really went on, in spite of draconian “reports” by far left biased sources. I fault him for probably losing the two Georgia Senate seats by making his appearance there more about the election than the fact that we badly needed those seats to stop the destructive democrat agenda and appointment of radically liberal Supreme Court justices. He’s not perfect, nor is anyone else, but your picture of him is off the rails inaccurate and dishonest.

[bgreene]

Originally Posted by scook

For a guy who doesn’t make excuses, you’ve sure made enough of them for Biden.

Trump was very much a law and order president - he sent federal agents to protect federal facilities and the lives of federal employees when Portland political hacks wouldn’t ALLOW our local police to provide ANY protection and deputized state and local law enforcement officers as federal agents to assist. The local despicable hacks howled like squashed cats and now, in the officer shortage crisis caused by their defunding, disrespecting and prosecuting the police they are lying about what happened in an attempt to rehire Portland officers who retired early to get out of the dishonest, malicious mess they had made of the police bureau. But they still classify those who “helped the fed’s attack our citizens” ineligible for rehire - yes, Trump was a law and order president in the face of your people abandoning honest, useful, non-violent citizens to the far left terrorists and criminal opportunists.

Did he encourage a vigorous demonstration, certainly. Did he direct his supporters to use violence, absurd. Go ahead and re-quote “fight like hell” a phrase so common in politics that taking it the way you do is mindless. Should he have spoken up more quickly, I think probably so, but neither you nor I know the particulars of what really went on, in spite of draconian “reports” by far left biased sources. I fault him for probably losing the two Georgia Senate seats by making his appearance there more about the election than the fact that we badly needed those seats to stop the destructive democrat agenda and appointment of radically liberal Supreme Court justices. He’s not perfect, nor is anyone else, but your picture of him is off the rails inaccurate and dishonest.

“ Off the rails and dishonest opinion of trump says scook “
Our Capitol was under attack, police being attacked, mob making terroristic threats to kill our Vice President of our United States …the mob was inside our Capitol searching for Pence and others, .and trump refused to speak up to stop the violence for hours.
We know this is a FACT . Republican officers and even his children were begging trump to speak up and he would not till the extreme damage and injury done.
Trump WANTED them to stop the transfer of Presidency by violence

And you scook continue the excuses for trump .

[bgreene]

Trump wanted force used to stop the George Floyd killing protests and related riots .
Trump wanted force used for protestors at his rallies .

But trump didn’t do anything to stop the violent attack at our Capitol .
What does that tell you ? You know exactly .

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/03/opini...nio/index.html