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You’ve said that before. Since there’s no way for them to know what if any involvement he might have had, it certainly looks like they’re hoping for a payday. The more honest approach would be to sue Pelosi, who is responsible for refusing to have additional law enforcement presence there or their department for ignoring their own internal intelligence. All of which was known well before any Trump speeches that could, even dishonestly, be construed as encouraging any kind of bad behavior.
You’ve read the FACTS about Pelosi on this and know the truth.
Honest approach - continue to uncover Trumps direct involvement is the Capitol attack and throw him in prison for crimes against our nation
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Unread 02-02-2022, 01:23 AM
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I’ve watched “investigations” in search of a predetermined result, not the truth and facts. This can happen when, like now, the “investigation” is controlled by a group with all of the power and no ethics. This is too good for the dishonest left to pass up, but it is just that, similar to the blatantly dishonest “investigation” of the “Russian collusion”. It is an abuse of process and an abuse of power.

Let’s just sensor all speech that doesn’t agree with the foolish, mindless “beliefs” (if they can even be called that) and policies of the left. Flag and cancel posts by a doctor who actually developed the vaccine foundation in use in connection with COVID because he was questioning “official policy” pronouncements. Let’s swallow he left’s view that the American public is too stupid to actually process conflicting views - ones that conflict with far left orthodoxy.

This exchange is a good example of why I said earlier that this is a waste of time. A discussion could have been interesting. Incessant repeating of a canned line of really ridiculous conspiracy theories in response to attempts at discussion isn’t.

The HONEST approach is to look into all of the facts in a NON-PARTIZAN way, which has been clearly demonstrated will NEVER happen with a Democrat majority in Congress and, even worse, a democrat president. I’m more hopeful if the majority changes in the mid-term.
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The spin nonsense supporting the lying cheating con man traitor trump here is the ACTUAL waste of time
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There’s no ”spin”. There are people who don’t agree with you.

Most of your conclusions are based on the lying, cheating, con”persons”, traitorous, despicable sources, whose conspiracy nonsense you continue to swallow, even after they have been proven to be purposely and maliciously dishonest. In addition to that, you seem unable even of separating what is obviously opinion from those already proven liars, who are shills for the far left from real news, which you seldom get from them.

That’s spin and it’s why this non-discussion is a waste of everyone’s time. It was worth a try, but not worth anywhere near as much effort as has gone into it.
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FACTS Scook …..which i follow vs your “ what if’s”.
Our nation runs on facts….our democracy based on laws and facts, not empty conspiracy theories .

Trump - claimed to be the “law and order President who said:
1. Police shouldn’t be so careful putting criminals into their police cars - they’re criminals throw them in the cars !
2. Talked of all his opposition that should be criminally investigated .

Well…..the same applies to the traitor trump who:
1. Did nothing for hours while people begged him to speak up and stop the attack on our Capitol.
2. Now he says the violent criminals that beat our police , smashed into our Capitol, made terroristic threats to kill our VP , and stop the peaceful transfer of power are “ being treated unfairly and he’d consider pardoning”……

Trumps a hypocrite !!! But worse than that a traitor and may just turn our nation into a dictatorship if he wins again. It would become the trump way only , and he’d use our country as his own private toy while giving speeches to keep you stary eyed supporters fooled
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I don’t recall posting any “what if’s”. Your Facts come from sources PROVEN to be liars - they may occasionally report facts, but for the most part report lies or orthodox far left opinion as facts.

I’m certainly not a starry eyed follower of anyone. You are unable or unwilling to see any nuance or discuss anything related to Trump beyond your empty conspiracy theory. That’s unfortunate because the left and right can actually learn things from one another. Not a lot to be learned from the FAR left currently, beyond how to lie and support really foolish, destructive narrative and policy - I live with that in my nearby city of Portland.

Your second sentence is correct - we need to run on FACTS, actual honest facts, not the nonsense and political hackery that you embrace.

You have established that this is a waste of time. We can enjoy agreeing on the beauty of nature and boat stuff - I’m done with this.
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I don’t recall posting any “what if’s”. Your Facts come from sources PROVEN to be liars - they may occasionally report facts, but for the most part report lies or orthodox far left opinion as facts.

I’m certainly not a starry eyed follower of anyone. You are unable or unwilling to see any nuance or discuss anything related to Trump beyond your empty conspiracy theory. That’s unfortunate because the left and right can actually learn things from one another. Not a lot to be learned from the FAR left currently, beyond how to lie and support really foolish, destructive narrative and policy - I live with that in my nearby city of Portland.

Your second sentence is correct - we need to run on FACTS, actual honest facts, not the nonsense and political hackery that you embrace.

You have established that this is a waste of time. We can enjoy agreeing on the beauty of nature and boat stuff - I’m done with this.
Very sneaky reply Scook ……this is NOT a waste of time as this is a continuing discussion of the FACTS associated with Donald Trumps actions , inactions , and the words he speaks - the message he delivers.

Furthermore, given that I’ve written at least a dozen threads about the lying cheating con traitor trump it’s OBVIOUSLY not a waste of time to me !!

1. news sources - you now discount ALL news sources that do not blatantly support Trump:
CNN, NYTimes, Washington POST, NPR, ABC. NBC and more …..EVEN WHEN THEY PRINT TRUMPS OWN WORDS and video of him speaking !!!!!

2. Nuances - correct - im not interested in the “nuances” just the historical FACTS, EVIDENCE, and PROOF.

So continue to reply - or not but you can’t whitewash away the facts and the truth…..not with sneaky comments, not with spinning my comments, not with any tricks .
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Gee, why don't people trust CNN?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1489580871405424642
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Whoopsie! Biden lies . . . again. About the same thing. That even the WaPo gave 3 Pinocchios.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1489308928047521810

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...non-ownership/
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