Wellcraft V20 Community

Go Back   Wellcraft V20 Community > Wellcraft V-20 Forums > Repairs
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Unread 10-19-2016, 06:23 AM
Redloon Redloon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Allen, TX
Posts: 111
Default

If you're having problems with your trailer lights, get a set of LED submersible lights. I also run a third dedicated ground wire from each light up to the connector. I find using the trailer frame as the ground is not always reliable.
__________________
1973 Mako 20' Center Console
1984 Wellcraft V20 Cuddy
1977 Wellcraft V20 Center Console
1975 Wellcraft V17 Center Console
1964 16' Super Skeeter with 55Lb thrust Motorguide Trolling Motor

1985 Glastron HPV-175 - sold
1984 Wellcraft 180 Fisherman - sold
1973 Mako 17' Angler - sold
1972 Mako 17' Standard - sold
1972 Mako 19' Center Console - sold
Always looking for the next one.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Unread 10-19-2016, 07:41 AM
Destroyer's Avatar
Destroyer Destroyer is offline
God
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Montville, NJ
Posts: 8,236
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redloon View Post
If you're having problems with your trailer lights, get a set of LED submersible lights. I also run a third dedicated ground wire from each light up to the connector. I find using the trailer frame as the ground is not always reliable.
Agreed on the LED's. Brighter, safer, easier to be seen and more reliable. Less likely to have the police pull you over for lights being out. Harbor Freight sells them for under $40 for a complete kit.... lights, wires, license plate holder, instructions. Anytime you have a connection, it's a potential source for corrosion, be that the trailer frame or a joining of two or more wires. However, when you join two wires you can take additional steps to insure a long life without corrosion. First, make sure the wires are shiny bright copper. (Blackened copper already has corrosion setting in... replace them if possible) Second, use special electrical grease on the wires before joining them together. Third, use heat shrink butt connectors that advertise as being watertight. (Again you can buy them relatively inexpensively at Harbor Freight) They have a special coating inside that seals the connector as it shrinks, making the connection far less likely to corrode. And finally if you really want to be fastidious, use some liquid brush on electrical tape (sealer) to coat each connection after it it cools. As long as you do these things you can be assured of many, many years of trouble free trailer lights.

To recap: LED's, bright copper, electrical grease, watertight connectors, liquid sealer = hassle free trailering. You'll sleep better at night.
__________________
1987 V20 w/1987 150HP Yamaha on a Shoreland'r Trailer
1978 16.5 Airslot w/1996 120HP Force on a Four Winns trailer
1996 V21 w/1993 200HP Mercury on a Shoreline Trailer
All towed by a 5.7L Hemi Durango.


If God didn't have a purpose for us we wouldn't be here, so
Live simply, Love generously, Care deeply, Speak kindly.
(Leave the rest to God)

Silence, in the face of evil, is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act. God will not hold us guiltless.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Unread 10-19-2016, 12:59 PM
GregV20 GregV20 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 21
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
Agreed on the LED's. Brighter, safer, easier to be seen and more reliable. Less likely to have the police pull you over for lights being out. Harbor Freight sells them for under $40 for a complete kit...
I've had good luck with the HF LED trailer lights, both the boat trailer kit and the round snap-into-a-rubber-gasket units (like the ones on semi trailers)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
Second, use special electrical grease on the wires before joining them together.
Permatex dielectric grease - good stuff - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000AL8VD2/
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Unread 10-21-2016, 08:32 PM
Slightly_Twisted Slightly_Twisted is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bloomington, Indiana
Posts: 221
Default

Thanks guys!! I don't have any problems as of yet, it just seems every few years with my old boat I would have to mess with the trailer lights.

So I had my first day off since Aug it was sooooo nice. Had some time so I worked on the boat. Got a lot done, replaced the thermostats, disabled the VRO (after making sure the mixed gas was being burned), finished painting the rod boxs, got the reg numbers on. Over all a good day!
__________________


1986 V20 Cuddy in pieces



"WILD FINN"
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Unread 10-22-2016, 09:55 AM
phatdaddy's Avatar
phatdaddy phatdaddy is offline
God
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: south of I-10
Posts: 4,965
Default

If you only have to mess with them every few years, your ahead of the game. I have 5 trailers, 3 boat & 2 utility, i tried about 4 sets of the led and went back to bulbs. I trailer a lot and I think the vibration takes its toll on the led lights. I run 3 wires from each light to the pigtail. And when i put a new bulb in, i use the dielectric grease on it.

I know how to work on a bulb set up, led's, you just throw away and go buy more.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Unread 10-22-2016, 04:11 PM
Destroyer's Avatar
Destroyer Destroyer is offline
God
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Montville, NJ
Posts: 8,236
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by phatdaddy View Post
If you only have to mess with them every few years, your ahead of the game. I have 5 trailers, 3 boat & 2 utility, i tried about 4 sets of the led and went back to bulbs. I trailer a lot and I think the vibration takes its toll on the led lights. I run 3 wires from each light to the pigtail. And when i put a new bulb in, i use the dielectric grease on it.

I know how to work on a bulb set up, led's, you just throw away and go buy more.
Phat, I totally agree that bulbs are far easier than LED's to work on, but remember that LED's are far less likely to be effected by water or vibration. Most times when an LED trailer light stops working it's a bad wire someplace. The LED's themselves are totally encased in glass or plastic and are immune to water... however the wires going from the bulbs to the PC board can corrode at the connections on the board. Next time you have one fail, open the light housing, carefully remove the LED strips and the PC board and take a soldering iron and remelt every connection where the bulb(s) are soldered to the PC board. I've successfully repaired several lights that way.
__________________
1987 V20 w/1987 150HP Yamaha on a Shoreland'r Trailer
1978 16.5 Airslot w/1996 120HP Force on a Four Winns trailer
1996 V21 w/1993 200HP Mercury on a Shoreline Trailer
All towed by a 5.7L Hemi Durango.


If God didn't have a purpose for us we wouldn't be here, so
Live simply, Love generously, Care deeply, Speak kindly.
(Leave the rest to God)

Silence, in the face of evil, is itself evil. Not to speak is to speak, not to act is to act. God will not hold us guiltless.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Unread 10-22-2016, 09:03 PM
SkunkBoat's Avatar
SkunkBoat SkunkBoat is offline
God
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Manasquan Inlet, NJ
Posts: 1,913
Send a message via ICQ to SkunkBoat
Default

my favorite subject

I have had sections of LED lights corrode in the second season and the "sealing" plastic made them impossble to repair. China can make things that look like lights...

I will add that you should make sure your trailer plug has a white wire connected to chassis ground on BOTH the car and trailer. Some cheap plugs don't do this and rely on the connection of the trailer, ball which just plain sucks.
__________________
1984 V20 "Express" & 2003 Suzuki DF140 (SOLD!)
2000 GradyWhite 265 Express

YouTube/SkunkBoat https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4F...znGospVOD6EJuw

Transom Rebuild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEz94NbKCh0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe_ZmPOUCNc
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Unread 10-24-2016, 12:16 AM
bradford's Avatar
bradford bradford is offline
God
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Wilmington Island, Georgia
Posts: 4,879
Default

Saltwater trailers should be exempt from any electrical requirements.

My last set of lights didn't work for about 8 or 9 years.
__________________
1985 Wellcraft V-20, Evinrude ETEC 150: SOLD
1979 Marine Trader 44, twin Ford Lehman 120s
2006 Panga 14, Tohatsu 20
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Unread 11-03-2016, 07:23 AM
Slightly_Twisted Slightly_Twisted is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bloomington, Indiana
Posts: 221
Default

So it's been really crazy around here. Work and family have been all over the place! I've been trying to work on the boat but it's hard to find time. We were able to go on our frist shake down cruse!!!***128523; Everything went really well, we idled for about 10-15 mins then ran it at speed for about 20 mins or so. I was so impressed it had been so long since I had been in a V. After being in Jon boats, and bass boats I missed the smooth ride of a deep V. The only problem we had was the starter drive gear wasn't in the best shape and it wasn't engaging correctly. So we had to get towed in after a stop and it wouldnt engage. we had planed for a break down and had a second boat on call for a tow.

After getting back to the house, I order a few carb kits, starter drive gear, and a new steering system. I went with the Uflex rotech rotatory system. So far so good the carbs are cleaned, rebuilt, installed, and runnning. The steering system is installed and working. I don't have the best reaction to carb cleaner so I have to go full out with the gear when using it.

Most people have pulled their boats from the lake already so I rigged up a back up motor so we can do some more testing.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0199.jpg (56.7 KB, 31 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0200.jpg (50.1 KB, 32 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0201.jpg (66.7 KB, 31 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0202.jpg (56.3 KB, 33 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_0203.jpg (76.2 KB, 31 views)
__________________


1986 V20 Cuddy in pieces



"WILD FINN"

Last edited by Slightly_Twisted; 11-03-2016 at 07:48 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Unread 11-03-2016, 09:36 AM
Slightly_Twisted Slightly_Twisted is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Bloomington, Indiana
Posts: 221
Default

One more
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_0204.jpg (78.8 KB, 30 views)
__________________


1986 V20 Cuddy in pieces



"WILD FINN"
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:21 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.