1994 v21 cuddy - opinions?

Today, I found a 1994 v21 cuddy with a 1994 150 yamaha for sale at a reasonable price.

Does anyone have any experience, knowledge or opinions about this particular hull.

The transom is different - does it still have a plywood core?

Wood stringers?

The boat has the same freeboard (on the outside), but the gunnels (on the inside) are lower than on v20s.
The cockpit floor is about 6 " higher. Does anyone know why?

The brochure on this site lists the weight at about 2500 (hard for me to read on my computer) , but v20s were listed at 1920 lbs if I remember right. Where is the extra weight coming from?

Any thoughts, answers or ideas would be appreciated.

Also, I am an old rude boy, but I have only heard good things about these yamahas.

[macojoe]

By what I have been told the 6" higher deck and lower freeboard were something that had to be done. I guess that they old ones like mine(75) Were not unsinkable!! Yes this means if anything happens to mine, don't hold on to it because it is going stright to the bottom!!
So the decks were rasied to porvide room for flotation acoarding to law.
As for the weight mine is 2500 + 400 motor= Close to 3000 # and then you have your gear and fuel, so I would say that the weight is right. If you go to the wellcraft home page there is a 1994 catalog page there that says that they dry weight is 2300 #
As for the motor, I don't know which year that Yamaha went with stainless shift rods but beware of them when looking!! I and BS have changed ares this year!! He did his with hs dad and I had the guy who sold me the motor do it. But there have been storys of people paying up to $1500.00 to get this fixed!! Most are around $800. They also can have Carborator problems. So make sure that you have the engin check out well!! This is the heart of the machine!! I usualy tell people not to look at the motor al that much as this is the reason most people get rid of there boats, so you should figure you are buying the hull only as you will need to repower. But in your case being that the motor is 94 it might be ok but just be sure!!
I have never heard of wellcraft getting rid of there wood, It still has it wood that I no of.

So there you have it, My 2 cents what ever that is worth. if the boat is in good shape and you belive you are getting a good deak then go for it. Just rember the motor might have some kinks that might not show them
selves until you start using it!! Have it check out!! If the guy is not willing to have a machanic look at it then say no deal. And try to get a sea run, that should be easy this time of the year.
See what happens when you get me going ;D
Good luck!!

[chumbucket]

Seakindly, good advise from macojoe. If I found a '94 for a good price, I'd be all over it. Yamaha went to the stainless shift rod that macojoe spoke of after '92. I would still have the motor checked out carefully, but that should be one less thing to worry about.
As for the boat itself, I wouldn't be concerned on whether it has wooden stringers or transom or not. The whole business about no wood in boats is great for companies that don't make a well constructed boat. There are many people, myself included, that prefer a boat with some weight to it. They handle the rough stuff a lot better than the lighter boats. The wood in the stringers could eventually rot away, but it's the fiberglass that encases the wood that gives the actual strength. A '94 should not have any transom rot problems for many, many years barring any catastrophic structural damage. I like the setback they made with the newer transoms. Should give you a lot more room in the cockpit.
You might want to consider finding a reputable marine surveyer to go through the whole boat for you. It'd probably run you a couple hundred $, but if it's a good deal to begin with, it may be money well spent for your peace of mind.

This and a conversation I had this weekend about the tendency for older deep V hulls to go down fast has got me thinking. Has anyone here figured out a way to add flotation to these hulls? Not looking for another project, just wondering.

If youve been following my other threads you know that I don't really have to worry about this because I'm perfectly safe sitting on the trailer #$%^&*!

The V20 on EBAY sold for $1336. Not a bad looking boat .

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2428557971

[chumbucket]

That's a sweet deal for $1336! :o
Repirts, boats, old or new, don't go down for no reason. Generally caused by operators lack of respect for the water or poor hull construction. I don't think you have anything to worry about as far as hull construction unless someone really abused your boat before you bought it and it has structural issues. I'm sure you would have picked up on any when you looked the boat over.

Well, I bought it :D! Had to buy a brand new trailer to get it out of the original owners backyard and into my driveway. Nice trailer - 5starr by loadrite. Tandem, 5400 GVWR , torsion suspension, NOT STAINLESS ROTORS on disc brakes - good price 499 bucks less than the loadrite for essentially the same trailer.

About the boat, Macojoe, I figured the raised cockpit floor was to allow for additional flotation. It also seems to be to provide more vertical drop for the cockpit drains that exit to the side. Gotta admit I am not crazy about that, I am used to scuppers large enuff to wash an oyster shell straight out the transom. I will be adding a big bilge pump just for the floor - self bailing or not :o.

First thing I do is change the thru hull fitting for the live well - saltwater pickup.

Next I switch some of the state of the art electronics from my current rig. Also gonna swap the fuel filter.

Gotta get a mounting bracket for the 9.9 Evinrude that I have hanging on the transom of my tin craft.

Boat is too nice to sit under the monster oak tree without some kind of cover. I will probalbly build some kind of pvc frame carport deal.

I wish I could remember where I layed down my superman x-ray glasses because I would really like to see what is inside that molded transom. Chumbucket, I sure hope you are right, that I will have a long wait for a good reason to go inside there ;)

Macojoe, you are right the brochure says hull weight is 2300 pounds. I wonder what the extra 380 pounds is?

It is good to know I have a stainless shift rod.

I would love to post some pics, but I am a digitally challenged dinosaur.

Good, safe holiday weekend to all. Summer starts on Tuesday 8).

[chumbucket]

Congrats on the purchase Seakindly! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Let us know how she handles. I think you're going to be real happy!

[reelapeelin]

Seakindly

congrats on your new love..uh the boat that is!

if curiosity gets the best of you on whats inside that transom...get a hypodermic syringe and fill it with marine grade epoxy...with a 1/8" drill-bit drill a few holes above and below the water-line at several different points of interest...if your bit drills out natural colored, dry wood shavings that's the best news you could hope for! if those drillings are dark and mushy moist, then your transom is as rotten as mine is!

once you're finished drilling holes in your new boat; if the wood is fresh and dry pump the holes full with your epoxy-loaded syringe...if it's dark and moist, allow a few days drying time before epoxying holes...they make a special epoxy(west marine) for this proceedure

i've heard this is how boat appraisers check inside hulls...personally i don't know if i got kahunas big enough to do it or not...didn't have to...i got a small, hair line crack just above plug hole that weeps tea colored moisture....no mystery what's goin' on there

anyway...best to you and your new love

[bigshrimpin]

Congrats SeaKindly!! I think you're the first v21 on the site.