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Unread 12-31-2008, 11:06 AM
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As I dig deeper into my disaster of a problem on the 150 I have I am starting to look at a whole new engine. There are a bunch of late 90's 150-200 JohnRudes out there that can be had for the same price as a rebuild. What's the difference between years? They are all mostly the 60 degree block with the same OIS system, are there any years to avoid?

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for your controls to work with out conversion stuff stick with 1996 and newer. If you buy a 150 or 175 like you have then you have a good spare parts motor. try to steer clear of the FICHT motors unless it has had injector upgrades and cmos updates.
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Yeah . . . Stay away from ALL FICHTS.

97 -2001 (150 or 175 FICHTS)
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i always search for deals, but i have runa cross these engines all the time. thought maybe you might be interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-...ssoriesQ5fGear


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1999-...ssoriesQ5fGear
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Evilgli,
I have been looking at those, that 2000 looks a little pricey to me. And I don't think that is the right cowling for a 2000.

Found a couple for cheaper, anywhere from 2800-3900 for a 150, so I think that is the route I am going to go.

As for those who bash the VRO I was given this link from the THT, interesting read...

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/VRO.html

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Also one other Q. As I look at rebuilt powerheads there is always a break at the 2000 mark, as 1996-2000 150's are this much, and 2001-2004 are this much, whats the deal with that? Are certain years going to burn more gas or be less reliable? I thought they were all pretty much the same.

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Evilgli,

As for those who bash the VRO I was given this link from the THT, interesting read...

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/VRO.html

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I've read that article before and it's a good article. Oil injection adds lots of potential failure points. An intact properly maintained oil injection system might be very reliable. In reality the oil injection is usually not maintained and is the root cause of MANY MANY MANY engine failures. Why even chance it . . . when you can remove ALL of the potential hazards with 1 action. Simply eliminating the oil injection removes a dozens of potentially catastrophic hazards, the need to perform regular (and sometimes expense) time consuming maintenance procedures and inspections . . . when there is ZERO benefit to keep that "simple" (but not really) system operating properly. So in my uneducated opinion . . . . it seems like a NO BRAINER to yank that POS system off every two stroke CARB outboard and throw it in the trash!!! K.I.S.S. = the best outboard lesson ever taught.
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Evilgli,
I have been looking at those, that 2000 looks a little pricey to me. And I don't think that is the right cowling for a 2000.

Found a couple for cheaper, anywhere from 2800-3900 for a 150, so I think that is the route I am going to go.

As for those who bash the VRO I was given this link from the THT, interesting read...

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/VRO.html

-Svence
i have this article and read it several times. Svence, i still run my VRO system on my 1996 Johnson 150 and have no worries with it. i check my reservoir religiously and when it gets about half way down i fill it up to the top. about twice a month i look over the lines and connections from the reservoir to the engine.

i know alot of people hate the VRO system, and maybe one day i will too, but i like using it now and if it fails, such is life. but i know alot of people local that are using the VRO system and there engines are still running.

i think people are afraid of things they don't understand and repair. so they just remove or don't use it and feel better. but the system works and ALOT of people use it. but like it has been said, your system didn't fail, it worked fine up to the point that it ran out of oil.
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Evilgli,
I have been looking at those, that 2000 looks a little pricey to me. And I don't think that is the right cowling for a 2000.

Found a couple for cheaper, anywhere from 2800-3900 for a 150, so I think that is the route I am going to go.

As for those who bash the VRO I was given this link from the THT, interesting read...

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/VRO.html

-Svence

Svence, once you get things figured out and do what your going to do, if you need any help just hit me up. i'm pretty close to you and willing to help out.
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