Fox News and politics

bgreene · #1 10-25-2021, 04:05 PM

Wow Fox News just keeps ripping Biden and Dems every way possible and not fair .

CNN which some on this site discount as fake news has been both hard on Biden Administration and positive where applicable. They report the mistakes and the good news.

But Fox wow even the photos they post are of the worst possible expressions.

But trump told you people CNN is fake news so you believe and do whatever trump tells you to do .

scook · #2 10-25-2021, 06:33 PM

I think most of us determined CNN to be a dishonest media source without any help from Trump. They recently confirmed it with their blatant, baldfaced lie about Joe Rogan’s COVID treatment medication.

If you listened to any of Trump’s press conferences, where the CNN representative (calling them journalists would be inaccurate) asked their infantile gotcha questions, which Trump responded to appropriately, you would be embarrassed to cite them as a source. Sure they report some things accurately, but very rarely if not fully in line with their far left views.

You think it’s unfair to show Biden with uncomplimentary photos? Where were you when your media sources were consistently doing that to Trump?

bgreene · #3 10-26-2021, 05:48 AM

Scook - trumps a lying cheating traitor to our country with his election fraud nonsense.

Therefore he deserves the media coverage of investigations he’s getting.
Except for Fox News which is like a Natzi propaganda system that won’t even cover the truth.

CNN bashing Biden for weeks now — reporting the news.

scook · #4 10-26-2021, 07:43 AM

Your virulent hatred of Trump and extreme confirmation bias toward apparently believing all things liberal and certainly believing all things anti-Trump seem to have you blinded to a reasonable, balanced view of what’s going on.

CNN’s reporting of approval ratings couldn’t ignore Biden’s wildly incompetent Afghan withdrawal, but of course didn’t mention that he is personally responsible for the deaths of many people and loss of massive amounts of our equipment, and huge loss of respect and trust in the world which would have been avoided if he had even a small amount of Trump’s negotiating skill or had simply followed his withdrawal plan. They then explained the low rating away with external factors. They also ignored Trump’s low ratings at roughly the same point in his presidency being heavily influenced by the lies and cheating of the Clinton campaign and complicit lying, cheating FBI along with their own dishonest complicit constant Trump bashing.

I’ve heard a good number of people accuse Fox News of lying, but never once has any of them been able to point out any lie they have told. Their opinion journalism clearly leans to the right, but not nearly enough to balance the left leaning opinion and I believe often dishonest, at least biased, hard news reporting of the mainstream media and particularly dishonest sources like CNN.

You have been presented with honest examples and, I may have missed it, but don’t recall you ever responding directly to any of them.

Insults and demagoguery based on your biased opinions aren’t going to persuade anyone who doesn’t already agree with you. I have some very liberal, very good friends who are honest and secure enough that we can actually discuss things we don’t agree about and learn something from each other. I think a lot of their views are crazy and a result of their confirmation bias and I’m trying to be aware of my own confirmation bias and remove it from my opinions - honest discussion and not ignoring information you don’t like are a lot more productive than demagoguery.

Pipe_Dream · #5 10-26-2021, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scook

Your virulent hatred of Trump and extreme confirmation bias toward apparently believing all things liberal and certainly believing all things anti-Trump seem to have you blinded to a reasonable, balanced view of what’s going on.

CNN’s reporting of approval ratings couldn’t ignore Biden’s wildly incompetent Afghan withdrawal, but of course didn’t mention that he is personally responsible for the deaths of many people and loss of massive amounts of our equipment, and huge loss of respect and trust in the world which would have been avoided if he had even a small amount of Trump’s negotiating skill or had simply followed his withdrawal plan. They then explained the low rating away with external factors. They also ignored Trump’s low ratings at roughly the same point in his presidency being heavily influenced by the lies and cheating of the Clinton campaign and complicit lying, cheating FBI along with their own dishonest complicit constant Trump bashing.

I’ve heard a good number of people accuse Fox News of lying, but never once has any of them been able to point out any lie they have told. Their opinion journalism clearly leans to the right, but not nearly enough to balance the left leaning opinion and I believe often dishonest, at least biased, hard news reporting of the mainstream media and particularly dishonest sources like CNN.

You have been presented with honest examples and, I may have missed it, but don’t recall you ever responding directly to any of them.

Insults and demagoguery based on your biased opinions aren’t going to persuade anyone who doesn’t already agree with you. I have some very liberal, very good friends who are honest and secure enough that we can actually discuss things we don’t agree about and learn something from each other. I think a lot of their views are crazy and a result of their confirmation bias and I’m trying to be aware of my own confirmation bias and remove it from my opinions - honest discussion and not ignoring information you don’t like are a lot more productive than demagoguery.

Well said. Cheers!

steplift20 · #6 10-26-2021, 08:49 AM

Perfectly said

Pipe_Dream · #7 10-26-2021, 11:14 AM

Thank goodness we have a National Gender Strategy to counter this.

Destroyer · #8 10-26-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream

Thank goodness we have a National Gender Strategy to counter this.

Yes. I totally agree. I mean, how else would we know a man from a woman unless we had a National Gender Council to point things like that out for us?

Destroyer · #9 10-26-2021, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook

Your virulent hatred of Trump and extreme confirmation bias toward apparently believing all things liberal and certainly believing all things anti-Trump seem to have you blinded to a reasonable, balanced view of what’s going on.

CNN’s reporting of approval ratings couldn’t ignore Biden’s wildly incompetent Afghan withdrawal, but of course didn’t mention that he is personally responsible for the deaths of many people and loss of massive amounts of our equipment, and huge loss of respect and trust in the world which would have been avoided if he had even a small amount of Trump’s negotiating skill or had simply followed his withdrawal plan. They then explained the low rating away with external factors. They also ignored Trump’s low ratings at roughly the same point in his presidency being heavily influenced by the lies and cheating of the Clinton campaign and complicit lying, cheating FBI along with their own dishonest complicit constant Trump bashing.

I’ve heard a good number of people accuse Fox News of lying, but never once has any of them been able to point out any lie they have told. Their opinion journalism clearly leans to the right, but not nearly enough to balance the left leaning opinion and I believe often dishonest, at least biased, hard news reporting of the mainstream media and particularly dishonest sources like CNN.

You have been presented with honest examples and, I may have missed it, but don’t recall you ever responding directly to any of them.

Insults and demagoguery based on your biased opinions aren’t going to persuade anyone who doesn’t already agree with you. I have some very liberal, very good friends who are honest and secure enough that we can actually discuss things we don’t agree about and learn something from each other. I think a lot of their views are crazy and a result of their confirmation bias and I’m trying to be aware of my own confirmation bias and remove it from my opinions - honest discussion and not ignoring information you don’t like are a lot more productive than demagoguery.

Yuo. totally agree. Well said Scook. Well said

bgreene · #10 10-28-2021, 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scook

Your virulent hatred of Trump and extreme confirmation bias toward apparently believing all things liberal and certainly believing all things anti-Trump seem to have you blinded to a reasonable, balanced view of what’s going on.

CNN’s reporting of approval ratings couldn’t ignore Biden’s wildly incompetent Afghan withdrawal, but of course didn’t mention that he is personally responsible for the deaths of many people and loss of massive amounts of our equipment, and huge loss of respect and trust in the world which would have been avoided if he had even a small amount of Trump’s negotiating skill or had simply followed his withdrawal plan. They then explained the low rating away with external factors. They also ignored Trump’s low ratings at roughly the same point in his presidency being heavily influenced by the lies and cheating of the Clinton campaign and complicit lying, cheating FBI along with their own dishonest complicit constant Trump bashing.

I’ve heard a good number of people accuse Fox News of lying, but never once has any of them been able to point out any lie they have told. Their opinion journalism clearly leans to the right, but not nearly enough to balance the left leaning opinion and I believe often dishonest, at least biased, hard news reporting of the mainstream media and particularly dishonest sources like CNN.

You have been presented with honest examples and, I may have missed it, but don’t recall you ever responding directly to any of them.

Insults and demagoguery based on your biased opinions aren’t going to persuade anyone who doesn’t already agree with you. I have some very liberal, very good friends who are honest and secure enough that we can actually discuss things we don’t agree about and learn something from each other. I think a lot of their views are crazy and a result of their confirmation bias and I’m trying to be aware of my own confirmation bias and remove it from my opinions - honest discussion and not ignoring information you don’t like are a lot more productive than demagoguery.

“ virulent hatred of trump”……..wrong - I was pro concept of trump early on until the things he said and did proved he was not fit for the Presidency .

“ believing all things liberal “…..wrong again . What I believe are facts and the truth such as trump lost the election , tried to coerce others to cheat for him, challenged with zero evidence and he encouraged the violent attack at our Capitol - referring to the people who were yelling hang Mike Pence as very special people that he loved.

“ reasonable balanced view of what’s going on” ……yes I do . Trump lost the election and none of his people brought ANYTHING close to reasonable to court as evidence otherwise.

My reasonable and balanced view is that Trump in so many ways proved to be a lying cheating con man traitor to America who wants to eliminate our process of free and fair elections.