we lost NJ

[spareparts]

California, New York, Colorado, and i guess we lost New Jersey as well
http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/c...PM&T=S&S=0&F=0
looks like they all passed

[Destroyer]

Well, NJ being a heavily democratic state, it was almost a foregone conclusion that they would pass such stupidity. At least ONE law, however, was passed that I'm happy to see.

Bill A3788 makes it illegal for anyone to have access to the names and addresses of gun owners. It specifically mentions the case in NY where a newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners, obtained under the freedom of information act, making them at risk for theft, etc. This bill stops that from being able to happen in NJ, and that's a good thing.

[willy]

It is still being fought, we won't go down without one. Still got to get past full house and senate along with Christie signing it.
He knows if he does he can kiss any national campaign good bye.
I have been contacting his office along with my other reps.

[spareparts]

i think Christie is going to fold on this one, he's been kissing way too much liberal *** lately

[RWilson2526]

Originally Posted by willy

It is still being fought, we won't go down without one. Still got to get past full house and senate along with Christie signing it.
He knows if he does he can kiss any national campaign good bye.
I have been contacting his office along with my other reps.

Correct, at this point they are only bills. And on a side note I thought that almost all of them were already laws.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by RWilson2526

Correct, at this point they are only bills. And on a side note I thought that almost all of them were already laws.

RW, you're correct. If you read the bills, a lot of them are just add-ons to already existing laws that just expand on what we cannot have or do.

I find it incredible for instance, that we're not legally allowed to possess police style billy clubs, yet we can have fish billys, aluminum baseball bats, axe handles, sticks and just about everything else you can think of .... but a billy is illegal. WHY?? Same with handcuffs, you cannot own them either, but you can own rope, nylon zip ties, wire, etc..... all of which will do exactly the same thing. Ditto knives... you can't own a stilleto style knife, but my razor sharp Buck knive with a bigger blade is fine... What I'm trying to say is that a lot of existing laws make absolutely no sense at all... and they are written by people that are supposed to be smarter and know what's better for us than we do. ... Oh, and slingshots are illegal, but bows and arrows are fine!!!

[Blue_Runner]

Illegal to ride in an automobile without a seatbelt but hop on a motorcycle - no seatbelt, no problem! LOL

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by Blue_Runner

Illegal to ride in an automobile without a seatbelt but hop on a motorcycle - no seatbelt, no problem! LOL

Ya, but at least you don't have to wear a helmet in an automobile. (yet)

[spareparts]

the bills in congress are dying a slow death(they will surely reappear tagged onto some feel good legislation), but Colorado is now Commifornia East

[tsubaki]

Word is there was never a real national attempt to ban stuff, they knew it wouldn't pass. It was intended to be planned to come through the states legislature.