elections soon

[lumberslinger178]

Dear Friends: There are less than 7 months until election day when the people will decide who will be the next President of the United States . The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. It's time that we all need to come together, Democrats and Republicans alike. In a bi-partisan effort for America : If you will support Mitt Romney, please drive with your headlights ON during the day. If you support Barack Obama, please drive with your headlights OFF at night. Together, we can make it happen. Thank you!

[charlie_the_tuna]

as much as i dislike obama, this romney is a real piece of sh!t. he's a union busting scumbag. i would have supported any other republican running against obama but this i can not do.

[jasoncooperpcola]

Does this mean i can help by busting headlights on cars with obama stickers?

WTH?!?!?!?! I did not capitalize obama and got the squiggly lines meaning i mispelled it. So i clicked it and the suggestion was "Obama". Keep in mind i am running Windows XP Pro that is six years old.

[THEFERMANATOR]

Between o and Romney is sort of like choosing a $2 hooker. they will both do you, but which one will do the least amount of damage to you in the process. Romney is nothing more than obama light though, so the choices are just as bad this go round as well.

[willy]

Just my two cents among friends, Obama is a flat out socialist, with four more years of his big government control you will not recognize America. Your children will suffer the consequences of a nation gone from liberty and a Constitution hating POTUS.
The economy will crash, we will be right in line with the European socialist governments where the majority is dependent on the government for their very existence and will be willing to trade their liberties for more free sh!t from Obama's stash.
And yes the Republicans in general do not favor public sector unions that spend millions for the re-election of left wing zealots that can do anything they want to this nation as long as they support legislation that pushes union people further ahead of their civilian counterparts doing the same level work.
the people who are paying for these contracts pensions etc.
While I understand many in these unions feel they are being targeted, I also understand that the only real answer to these issues is a national right to work law in which people in the unions will have a choice on the matter of forced membership.
This of course is an outrage to the unions, sorry, it is as anti American as you can get to force and American to be in a union he does not agree with, pay money to be used to elect politicians he cannot stand under threat of first, lost of employment and second outright violence and thuggery if he wants to get out.
Obama and his ilk are literally destroying the fabric of this nation and are dividing us along color, ethnicity, religion and income levels.
They are doing it on purpose, it is called group and identity politics.
It is how a political group controls the people through distraction and envy of others.
We are better than that.
While I did not have Rommney as my first pick but he was the first pick of a majority of American's voting in the primaries and as they say that is that.
He is not perfect, but in my humble opinion he is so far ahead of the Great Divider as a leader and as someone who will turn around our economy that to pull the lever for a devout socialist in what may be the most important election in our nations history is as close to crazy as I have ever heard.
What single thing has the Obamination done in the past three in a half years that you feel has done something to further our nation, further our liberties, further our economy, reduce our debt. get the government out of the people's life, and bring our nation together?
Tough question huh?

[charlie_the_tuna]

no willy, not a tough question...... an impossible question. the man is history's most charming liar. he is truly out of his element as president. while i agree with 99% of what you wrote, quite frankly i wish they would both just go away.
that said i will vote for none of the above. that may be a wasted vote or favor one candidate over the other but i cannot, in good conscience, vote for either one of these a$$holes.
as far as "the people" paying for my pension and benefits, 6% of my weekly paycheck goes towards my pension. another 6% goes towards railroad retirement. 6% to my 401K and 457K. yes, for all those keeping count, i bring home 52% of my paycheck each week, after all the other deductions. yup. that's right. 48 percent of my paycheck goes to somebody else. and i havent had a pay raise in several years.
so really, obama...... romney...... they both blow. i'll take none of the above.

[willy]

Sadly my friend we are often left with the lesser of two evils.
I wish a true Tea Party candidate had gotten the nod but as usual I did not get my wish.
I would say to you that there is one thing for certain that we all know. The socialist liar we have in now is destroying our nation. And not having to be answerable to the voters if he gets re-elected will go balls to the wall to stick us with that agenda.
We also know for sure we cannot go another year, let alone four with the out of control spending and monstrous debt we have now.
We also know that the Liar in Chief is in control of the most expansive seizure of power by the federal government in our history and just in the promulgation of regulations alone we as a nation are suffering.
So if no reasons other than these we can agree on, I would like to make a friendly suggestion to you.
If you can't vote for an individual because he does nothing for you, at least vote against what is destroying us.
Every man and woman in this country that values what our nation stands for, what our fore fathers fought for and for the future generations chance at having the American Dream, needs to get into the booth this November and kill the track to European Socialism. That is the cliff we are about to spiral into.
We cannot leave the next generation that inheritance after what we have been given.

[tartuffe]

Charlie, just curious, why do you support unions? It seems that with the creation of OSHA, EPA, and laws against discrimination based on race, sex, and AGE the unions serve as a redundant, outdated system to fall back on when the system itself fails. To ME it seems you are taking your job security away from corporate management and placing it in your union bosses hands who will determine when you will work.

With all of the money you put into savings every week, why do you not just buy stock in the company you work for? If their policies are such that you need the union to protect you from their corporate greed, you could benefit from that greed on the backside through dividends. Maybe you do now and if so it would seem you would be in a quandry with your union.

I have family that live in New Jersey and rely on the unions to put them on the docks in Philly where they haul cargo so what I know of unions is probably very different than your life's experiences so I would like to hear your side of what unions do for you.

[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by tartuffe

Charlie, just curious, why do you support unions? It seems that with the creation of OSHA, EPA, and laws against discrimination based on race, sex, and AGE the unions serve as a redundant, outdated system to fall back on when the system itself fails. To ME it seems you are taking your job security away from corporate management and placing it in your union bosses hands who will determine when you will work.

With all of the money you put into savings every week, why do you not just buy stock in the company you work for? If their policies are such that you need the union to protect you from their corporate greed, you could benefit from that greed on the backside through dividends. Maybe you do now and if so it would seem you would be in a quandry with your union.

I have family that live in New Jersey and rely on the unions to put them on the docks in Philly where they haul cargo so what I know of unions is probably very different than your life's experiences so I would like to hear your side of what unions do for you.

Tartuffe, there are different kinds of unions... some are what I will call piecemeal unions, (Jobshops) like the carpenters or the ironworkers, others are in house unions, like the IBEW for power & light companies, or the Transit workers, like the Engineers and conductors for the MTA. Charlie belongs to the later type of union, so he's not dependant on the union bosses for the next job like the piecemeal types of unions.

The rest of this post was supposed to be right after Willys first post. Unfortunately, the server timed out before it would post, and then I had to leave my desk and go do something for my company so I didn't get a chance to repost it. It was written in response to and in support of Willys first post, so if it seems a little out of sync, blame the server :)


And that is exacty why you need to pull the lever for Romney. He was not my first choice either, but when you stack what he had done in his lifetime against what the imposter has done in his lifetime the choice is obvious... I'll take Romney every time.. it's no contest.


Look...here, in a nutshell, are your choices:


You can vote for the imposter... you will be voting to turn America further into a Socialist Country, loss of more of your freedoms, loss of more jobs, higher taxes, and more than likely the onset of the worst recession in our Country's history (Including the great depression). This is a man that spent his entire life surrounded by avowed marxists, both as friends and as professors that he learned from. A man who, to this day, has people like that as his closest advisors. A man who has spent more money in his first 3 1/2 years as president than all the other presidents in our Country COMBINED!! An admitted drug user in college (Weed and Coke). A racist, bigoted, bloviated, ignoramus who doesn't understand the first thing about business or running a Country. A man that is weakening our Country by cutting our military to the bone so he can help pay for a bunch of free giveaways to over 50% of the population that pays no taxes. (He's buying their votes). (And stealing your money in the process)



You can vote for Romney... you will be voting for an avowed capitalist who has made a fortune in the business world. He has an 80% success rate for turning companies around and making them profitable, creating tens of thousands (yes thousands) of jobs in the process, including Staples, Sealy, Brookstone, The Sports Authority, and Domino's. Also, in late 1998, the 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City was rocked by a bribery scandal that threatened the Games. (The top two officials in the Salt Lake Organizing Committee had to resign). The games were facing a $379 million deficit because sponsors were pulling out. Since they were short on money and many venues hadn't been built yet, politicians, business leaders and International Olympic Committee officials were suggesting the games be cancelled or moved to another location. Because of his record for turning around businesses in the past, Romney was asked to take over the failing Olympics; he became the CEO for the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in February of 1999. He refused a salary and even donated $1 million of his own money to the cause. He then streamlined the games by cutting costs and eliminating waste like fancy perks. Romney also brought in $180 million in revenue from new sponsors and broke the record for raising private money for an Olympics - winter or summer. In the end, the Olympics were a success and the games actually turned a $100 million profit. Romney saved the 2002 Olympic Games.

Much has been said of his tenure as Governor of Mass, so lets look at the record. He became governor of Massachusetts in January of 2003, and faced an immediate budget crisis. The state had a $650 million shortfall and was facing a projected deficit of $3 billion the following year. Romney came in and cut spending and eliminated waste in government by cutting out duplication and inefficiencies. In one case he consolidated 15 different human service agencies, all doing basically the same thing. He also cut the number of state employees. He raised some fees but did not raise taxes and he balanced the budget every year. (The unemployment rate in Massachusetts also fell from 6.3% when he took office in January of 2003 to 4.6% by June of 2007, the end of his last fiscal year). He also passed healthcare reform covering nearly everybody in the state, and did so without raising taxes and using private sector insurance. All of these things are easily found on the internet if you just look. They are facts, not just the hyperbole that his opponents are throwing around trying to make you vote for the imposter by getting you to fear Romney.

He's far from perfect, but I know that my freedom and my Country's very existance will be safe under his reign. Truthfully, I cannot say the same under the imposter.

So you can vote for the imposter, you can vote for Romney, or you can decide to not vote (Which really is a vote for the imposter) I hope you vote for Romney, even if you don't like all of him. There's a lot more to like than dislike. (And the future of your children depends on YOUR vote)

[charlie_the_tuna]

Originally Posted by Destroyer

Tartuffe, there are different kinds of unions... some are what I will call piecemeal unions, (Jobshops) like the carpenters or the ironworkers, others are in house unions, like the IBEW for power & light companies, or the Transit workers, like the Engineers and conductors for the MTA. Charlie belongs to the later type of union, so he's not dependant on the union bosses for the next job like the piecemeal types of unions.

thanks destroyer.
yes tartuffe, this is my situation. while i must admit my union doesnt carry the strength it once did, it continues to fight for our rights and work rules as well as representation when the company wants to discipline us. our union is several thousand strong and although our local doesnt like to flex its muscles the way it once did we are still pretty powerful.