Captbent: Where did you get that rod holder thingie? I gave all my downrigger crap away as I mostly fish by myself and its a pain in the as# to fool with. I used to run 6 rods and 2 deep planers on the stern cleats and I think you could do it with those things that you have pictured. I have some old 10 foot medium-heavy steelhead rods that would really put them out there.How may rods do you troll with? lFrank