good advice maco. nothing to loose. realy dont wanna notch my transom to mount my old 150. planning on getting this 175 running someday soon. even if i have to rebuildit. heres my info schools. mod #- VJ175EXENC ser#- G03064923. cant thank you guys enough. anytime i go to a boat yard i always feel likr a woman at a mechanics shop. not realy sure what there talkin about but, buy the grin on thiere faces, i'm pretty sure i'm getting screwed! glad i found this forum! now i dont feel quite so lost. thanks guys.