macojoe, we got on here to help the boaters with our products not rip people off we been around sinse 1957,we are from PA i moved to florida 8 yrs ago and opened a factory. read our web site.if we can do anything to help anybody in here just ask,and jean in the picture is my wife of 12 yrs and we do have 2 boys.if it means anything we are real not out to still.she was told to post on here that we may be able to help out and sell.and she seen the remark from MJ and got upset like i said we are new to this site didn't mean to tramp on anybodys toes

thanks .rod.rupert