[bradford]

Couple of the comments remind me of a thread I read on an offroad/bugout vehicle thread on a different forum. Couple of guys were somewhere like the baja or some far off wilderness with their modded out 4x4s carrying gear, hilift jacks, had winches on the front and back etc. They got out to walk a particularly bad section of trail to plan their angles etc and as their walking back to their rigs they get passed by an old native type driving a rusted out '85 2 wheel drive nissan pickup with bald tires and 7 kids under ten riding in the back.