I use a 6 - 8oz drail and with 300' of wire out, I'm getting around 50' down with umbrellas.
Learned by letting out more at troll speed ( 2.8 - 3.0 ) until it touches bottom, then 10 cranks up or so.
Tsunami Trophy 7'6" with Penn 113 H.......standard monel rod / reel set up.
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