Originally Posted by spoggy
Well, my foray into this forum, though well intentioned was ill-advised. I appreciate the support from RWilson2526. Destroyer, I did read all that "mush". You are insulting me by denigrating the material I post and calling into question my ability to understand the repercussions of my "cut and paste". I was asked to give some reasons as to why I like President Obama because I may have been a troll or may be sarcastic. I have never called into question the veracity of the information you have posted, perhaps I should have. I can find errors in almost everything that has been posted in this thread, by everyone. Really, I posted my OWN REAL world view of what has happened since o took office, but it is in error?
As to why the GOP is suing the President? It's political obstruction. I have already shown that President Obama has written fewer executive orders since Grover Cleveland. John Boehner isn't even sure which executive orders they're going to sue over. The GOP is suing the the President for doing his job, running the country when the GOP has chosen to spend all their time trying to overturn laws that their OWN BODY passed. The GOP has tried 50 times since the ACA was passed to overturn it at a cost of some $70 million to the american taxpayers. If the ACA is something that the majority of Americans don't want, how come they can't repeal it? That's just one example. It comes down to the type of EO's he has signed. He has side stepped the governing bodies to push hi s own personal agenda time and time again. That is why they were suing him. Any attempt to have a bipartisan discussion has resulted in the left saying we will only agree to what we want, and not bend. So o took to EO's. If the people didn't want this to happen, then why do these ELECTED OFFICIALS keep getting re-elected to continue to do this? This is what the left just cannot see is ELECTED officials are doing this because this is what there constituants WANT. Almost every pole out there has shown that the ACA isn't favored by the majority of the public, even people who are on it(like myself) would rather be able to afford our own policies. Or better yet, tell me how in 1 single way the ACA has done anything to help healthcare. I have actually used the healthcare system, and the ACA has done nothing at all to address the issues. Sky rocketing costs ARE the issue, and this is why the lawsuits and continued rejection of the ACA come from. It has done nothing but to push this country towards single payer. Almost every study out there has proven that we have jsut as many(or more according to several reports) of UN-insured, yet it is still here despite proving it hasn't done what it was set out to do. And what is going to happen when the REAL costs come out over the next few years?
You have strongly held beliefs, as do I. I haven't been attempting to change anyone's mind, only explain why "I like the guy". I have come to the conclusion that this particular forum is not about the ability to have a free exchange of political ideas and learn about each other, it's a microcosm of the current political climate where everyone is right and has a moral imperative to force their beliefs on others without thinking that the other side has a right to their opinion, and existence.And this is what the left has become renowned for, forcing there views on others. Yes destroyer has strong opinions, but he has explained his standings and backed them up. Not just copied and pasted some examples that look like propoganda. It would be nice to have an actual discussion regarding this matter, and many here would do so. Just back up what you post, not just throw something out there.
This is my penultimate comment in the political forums, I'm sticking to boats and fishing from now on. And this is what many of us have come to despise of the left. Either see it my way or I'm taking my ball and leaving. So many are not willing to see that MANY of us are not better off under our current administration, and are tired of being pissed on and told it's raining. I'm not normally one to foray into the politics forums as I'm not very good at conveying in a civilized manner what I'm thinking(so I apoligize if I come off as attacking you, that is not my intention), but it would be nice to have actual examples of things our administration has done that are positive(not just a copied and pasted list of things). It would also be nice for those on the other side of the fence to realize that many of us have been harmed by his policies, and inability to lead and work with those on both sides of the aisle(the very thing he said he would do when he ran for office in the first place) to help the public instead of polarize it and put us back. If you choose not to post in politics, that is fine(it's stil la free country). But the whole you don't see it my way is a bit over the top.
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