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Originally Posted by willy

Nobody lumped illegal aliens in with legal aliens, that was your leap.
My statement specifically spoke to the illegal alien.
And it most certainly PC speech police to not able to pick two common names from the two groups referred to in that piece.
Fuzzy math is one thing, even though I am willing to bet it is not as fuzzy as you think.
In fact I am dealing with apartment complexes here in NJ where hundreds of the apartments are filled with illegal Hispanics. Between Federal aid and state and township aid they are living rent free. I know they are because the only time they get evicted is when one of the agencies does not come through for some reason.
The school system is full of their children, they are not paying property taxes to cover that. I am.
They get free medical care, they are not paying for that, I am.
They work jobs in which they get paid in cash, and they have cash. No income taxes.
They shop at local Bodegas that have sprung up all over town, do you know why? Because the Bodegas do mostly cash business and don't charge taxes on a lot of items.
They get food stamps out the kazoo and the bodegas let them use them for anything. Including calls home to Honduras or Mexico or where ever. They do a lot of internet calls at these stores and get paid in food stamps.
How do I know these things, cause I see it and hear about it all the time. Been going on for more years than I can count.
There is now a whole industry in this country involving illegals getting over.
Go talk to the people in L.A, that city has a major problem with sales tax. Why? Because they have a huge underground economy based on cash in their majority Hispanic community. Their schools are filled with these kids whose parents are not paying taxes for, One reason is you have four families living in one rental,
You should see what we have going on in Flemington NJ< I go into the apartment with the landlord, One guy rents the apartment, they have the rooms with two by four and plastic walls nailed up and triple bunk beds on both sides of the room. They have twelve of fourteen people living in there.
This is going on all over this country. Trillions of dollars spent.
And we got moron politicians who base their power base on these poor people.
It is a national disgrace what we have allowed to happen in our country.
I will be damned if I am going to be PC about it.
and let me tell you, two of my brothers married beautiful Colombian girls and you want to hear some outright pissed of Hispanics, ask these two women what they think of the illegals after what their families went through to come here legally. Juan and Jose would be chewed up and spit out by these ladies.

Willy I agree with almost everything you spelled out here. I've never said that illegals were any good, or that the system that's sprung up around them was anything but a crock of sh!t spawned by politicians that are using these pieces of filth for ther own advantages, at the cost to you and I.

But you touched ever so gently on my point, even though you probably don't realize it. You mentioned your two brothers. You said they married beautiful Columbian ladies and that they are as pissed off as anyone else about the situation with the illegals.

BUT THE POST ABOUT JUAN LUMPED THEM RIGHT IN WITH EVERY ILLEGAL, simply because they are Spanish. The implication was that all Spanish people were illegals. Don't you see that? This isn't about whether the illegals are good or bad (they are bad) This is about whether ALL Spanish peoples are good or bad. By calling the illegal POS in the post Juan that's exactly what happened. And that's what I'm trying to point out. NOT every Spanish person is a POS illegal. Most are decent, law abiding citizens that work hard and pay their taxes just like the rest of us.....and I don't want to see them tarred with the same brush as the illegal peoples.