Originally Posted by willy
T. Sowell is brilliant.
I think that there are greedy capitalist's, there are greedy politicians.
But I also believe it is highly pessimistic to subscribe that generalization to millions of companies and thousands of politicians. No I said there are those who cheat and those who don't
I also believe that sex and money have made the world go around since Adam first munched the carpet and the apple.
But to take a company from a idea to a major corporation is exactly what capitalism is all about.I didn't say it wasn't...I applaud those who have until such time as they think buying our government is a business strategy. BY and FOR the people doesn't include corporations and I'm surprised you agree w/the Supremes that it does
And the men and women who did those things also built our railroads, cities, communications, medical facilities, international trade, automobiles, computers, telephones.
You get the drift.Yeah...I think I got it
They also brought art, science, museums, culture where there was none before.
So, yea. They DID build that and they deserve to reap the rewards and they should be able to influence legislation that will prevent others from taking what they built etc. While I believe a given government should provide a business friendly atmosphere that doesn't work AGAINST any sized business you and I could not be further apart on the issue a business should be able to influence government. The way that is handled is called Bribery and I find that a hard train to board
It is life. It is the human condition. The human condition has shown a propensity to murder ea/other from time to time...should we repeal those laws and accept that as well, that's just what people do?
While I agree that certain reigns need to be put on them by "We the People" through our elected representatives so that there is a fair competition in the market place I believe it is very idealistic, or utopian to believe we are going to eliminate it.Below you say , We can fix it by eliminating greed...sounds pretty idealistic and Utopian to me
What you have in a Statist, Socialist, Communist or Progressive systems is a hierarchy of government rulers deciding the winners and losers, not the customers. The ruling class elite who add ZERO value to society as a whole pick those winners and losers to increase their power, wealth and ego.
All the while maintaining the masses to do their bidding by doling out the table scraps to them. Yeah...I call it Trickle Down Economics
Meanwhile no one rises, no one succeeds and society as a whole moves through life as sheep. Like joining one of the two mainstream political parties, kinda...then living a life of, My party right or wrong kinda sheep thing..
Creativity dies. Exceptional ism does not exist.
This is the life that these societies all through history experienced. And when the population expressed some resistance they were killed, sometimes in the millions.
No, I think I will do much better in a capitalist society, even with its greedy head and dirty politician sometimes rearing up.It was a "sometimes" thing long ago...today it's the third largest money exchange in the country...
And I do not expect perfection in life, but I do expect an opportunity.
And when all is said and done, every single swinging richard in this country has that in spades.
To say they don't is an outright lie.
So now, we have in our nation a population that votes itself more free sh!t from those people, called the "rich" by the current keepers of the socialist/progressive agenda who are in power, and social justice when under threat of force they confiscate the earnings of others to render to those they deem their power base a cradle to grave existence. Notice I said existence, because if you are kept by keeper and dependent on him for your very existence you are not living, you are not thriving. You are a slave.
And here is where we stand.
About half this country is working and paying the freight for the other half.
And many have fallen for the propaganda that it is the greedy rich, the evil corporations and the capitalists that have done this to us. Or some version of that scheme. Not me...I know better
Some would have you believe we can only take action by throwing them all out, or that we can only fix things by eliminating money and sex from those that hold office. I don't believe a typical politician can engage in enough sex for that form of Bribery to be much of a threat...now money on the other hand he can take in amounts that move mountains
We can fix it by eliminating greed, or some other generalized claim such as all liberals are scum, or anyone who believes we should return to a Constitutional Republic are right wing zealots. Wow...that reasoning makes ME a right wing zealot
No we can fix it by being honest, humans have flaws, we all have some. We fix it by getting government out of the business of running American Citizens lives. Getting the government out of the business of picking winners and losers in our economy. Getting government out of business...and more importantly, getting BUSINESS out of government
We let capitalism happen. And we stop looking for utopia,Y'all have a way of taking arguments to the extreme like, You can't balance the budget on the backs of the rich...that's a true statement...but taxing the rich can sure as hell CONTRIBUTE to balancing the budget...just as a continued search for Utopia, while futile in its goal, will certainly better us all we will not find it until we meet our maker. We keep high ideals, but save the generalizations that serve no purpose except for those who wish to spend their lives in the Rectory or the Academia hypothesizing.Those who don't understand ideas precede reality apparently wish to live in a cave and scoff at the notion of the WHEEL...GENERALIZING ALWAYS COMES BEFORE PARSING THE DETAILS...
And we do not elect those who would offer benefits for nothing and chicks for free as long as you can close a blind eye to what the man behind the curtain is doing and are willing to give up our greatest gift.
Liberty.Liberty...that's my whole point...how much of it are you willing to give up? for me it's not an INCH...for those who accept big money buying politicians as human nature, apparently it's a much greater measure...it's NOT a "sometimes" thing any longer...it's the status quo...the tail IS wagging the dog
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