[willy]

I say the h@ll with any of them advertizing groups, if I see one more green lizard pop up I might shoot it.

Why don't we sponsor our own site. Not as advertisers but as sponsoring members.
Figure out what it will cost with Valiant to do a decent upgrade. Annually.
And then figure out what we need split up by sponsors annually.
Then as a high honor on this site each fellow will have "Sponsor" or Contributor or Snagger or whatever under his membership title (Senior Junior God etc )
That way we can keep our own little place in this world like you suggest MJ, beholding to no one and an even tighter family group.
Let me say that I was never a big get on the computer guy, but with the guys I have met here and the friends I have made on this site it is definitely something special in the world of communication and other sites are envious of our camaraderie
You do enough already MJ, plus you have all kind of health issues with yourself and your wife. We do not need you doing more or especially paying for the site.
Plus you entertain us with copious Wind Talking
That way we can be our own family group, you can continue to monitor and moderate the way you have been, and we we can have a good fast moving site for all. Plus we will still be free for most members.
I am fortunate enough to be running my own business right now and I am willing to commit to $100.00 a year. Not everyone will be able to do that and a couple of years ago I could not do that much. But pick a number after you find out the cost and come up with an amount that will allow everyone who wants to be a proud sponsor to contribute. You are going to have to do something like that anyhow as having one of our brothers paying for this site out of his disability check is not right.
That is my suggestion.