thanks spare! i think i just found a 1989 470 Pa. lake engine where i am on long island, just sitting here getting up the nerve to pull the trigger on the deal. this guy did a swap for a 4.3 and thats how he came about this engine. what i like about this deal is that the guy i'm buying the motor from is going to install it for a winter price and says he can sell my 3.0 with no problem. just thinking aloud,