[Destroyer]

Originally Posted by RWilson2526

Willy, here is my problem with Glen Beck...I've been watching his show lately and this is where I disagree. If someone has any desire to implement or even discuss anything that is traditionally labeled "progressive" he paints a broad brush and calls them "communists or socialists" and all the bad parts of those movements that came along with them in our world history. ( not to mention the dramatic way he does it like we should all be so appalled)

Nothing wrong with a little showmanship. If what he is saying is the truth, then how he says it is not important. I like him simply because he is so dramatic. Who wants to be watching a boring college professor type of person give you tons of facts without any emotion. He backs up everything he says or writes about with video tapes or recordings or whatever... He's not lying like most politicians and "newscasters" you see today. I see him as a deeply religious, almost finatical patriot that is trying to educate people to what is happening in our Country.

Let me ask you this and be honest...if some how magically every person in this country, or world for that matter could be taken care of medically with quaility care, and it was somehow paid for equitably wouldnt that be just the best thing ever? Or if we had a world economy without politics involved where now instead of having 300 million US customers I could sell my widgets to I had 6 billion people without having to worry about trade laws and embargos and taxes and all the other bull**** that our world politics brings with it.

No, I don't think it would be, and I'll tell you why. The simple fact is we are all humans, and, like everyone else, I would love to just sit back and have everything given to me for free. When you give everything to everyone for free it destroys incentive. It makes you lazy. And when you become lazy you don't care about what people are doing as long as you are getting "yours". But what happens is that not everyone is a purist, driven by an overwhelming need to help their fellow citizen. Some people are simply greedy. Be it for money, fame or power, they want more. And the way they get more is by controling you and having you work for them.
Sure, they will give you some "benefits" like "free" health care (that you are really paying for anyways)...but while you are eating hot dogs and hamburgers and being happy that you have food they are traveling around the world dining on lobster and steak that you paid for. Don't you see Rob? It's a trap. They are setting a trap for the entire Nation...

Call me a progressive or communist or whatever you want but in THEORY universal healthcare and a world economy would be a GOOD thing but with the "current world order" it will never happen. You have to admit our current worlds political system is rediculous. But if you imagine changing it you just said basically that you want a "new world order" and Glenn Beck automatically says that means we are not at the top of this order and the world will come to an end.

I won't call you any of those things. I'll call you my friend if I may. Perhaps a bit naive, but my friend nevertheless. No, even in theory universal health care and a world economy is not a good thing. Our Country didn't become as great as it was by leaching on the backs of others. It was only by hard work and perseverance that we got where we are. And if we want to stay at the top of the heap, then that's how we do it. As soon as we start looking to the government to provide us with things we start losing our freedom. The more they "provide", the more we lose. In the end, they have everything, they control you, and you have nothing. I'm really not ready to give up my freedom just yet.

The problem is with our current political 2 party system is someone cant even attempt to dream about that kind of thing without being called a "Socialist or Communist" by the Republican party and the whole machine comes to a grinding to a halt.

I've dreamt about it several times... it's called a nightmare. I have no desire to have someone take the fruits of my labor and give it to someone else that isn't doing a damn thing except holding out their hand. I'm not toaking about the injured or people that are mentally challanged.. I'm talking about perfectly healthy people that are playing the system. Why should they work when they can get everything for free?

I don't think it's the Republican party anymore that's driving the car. It's the Independants. The Tea Party activists, if you need to call them a label. They are the ones that are trying to halt the machine. And thank God they are. When over 80% of the people say they are against health care and our elected representives still decide to vote it in, then it's time to realize that they are not representing us, the nation. They are representing the special interests that are funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars to them. They are (in my humble opinon) traitors that should meet the same fate as any person the betrays their country and their countrymen.

We all need to pray to whatever God you believe in for guidance and for salvation. Without his help, I fear that our Country will be lost to our children and their children for centurys to come.