I'd vote for teh Rudes, which ever one was fresh water. Old Yamahas get real expensive real quick when you start replacing parts. Contrary to popular belief, they do berak down, figure double the price for any parts comparable to a Merc or Johnrude. Around here, we don't rebuild Yamaha lower units, we repalce them, it ususally takes big hammer, chisel, and torch to get one a part after its been in salt for a while. DOn't forget the trim systems(probably Yamahas weakest point), only recently has there been any aftermarket trim motors available for Yamahas, soem of the oem motors are staggering in price
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