[willy]

BlueMan, I know both you and Mac are your own men, never any doubt.
if our discussions made you think I thought otherwise I render an absolute apolgy right here and now.
I do not believe in Kool Aid of any flavor, I am very likely to smack the face of whoever may be pouring it, but what I have seen again and again is friends and even family willing and ready to give up the concepts and freedoms that have made America the greatest country on earth.
Why, because they are not happy with Bush, or a media spin on this or that.
The fact of the matter is there is no perfect country but in all of history there has never been one that has come as close as ours and it is improving constantly.
But when you want to put a devout group of socialists in absolute power in this country it scares and disgusts me.
I am passionate about our freedoms as Americans, and I dont want to see the desire to speed improvement in our way of doing things pervert into throwing the baby out with the bath water.
It may be you are right, maybe a socialist type country is what most people want.
I will not live in one