[willy]

I understand Oz and chum, but the main point I am making is if this individual is put into office we will have turned over the absolute control of the direction of this country to a extremely left wing group of people with and extremely left wing agenda and have proven that fact again and again.
This is not about moderates and conservatives doing a check and balance shuffle this is an outright cabal with an agenda that goes far beyond removing troops and general antiwar sentiment. This goes far beyond a medical insurance plan using free market. This is a desire to change the fundamentals of this country into a european type socialist state, and make no mistake that is exactly what these people want.