Charlie the Tuna: I agree with you on the shark killing. I dont know that much about them but they have my respect. The japs have killed millions of them just for their fins and the aussies up until 3 or 4 years ago used to shoot great whites at night with shotguns while chumming to keep them off the swimming beaches. I catch quite a few sand tigers bottom fishing for grouper on circle hooks and I always cut them off..I've been pulled around many a time wreck fishing in my Mako 17 by big sand tigers.They dont look for rocks or cover or try to spit the bait like most game fish...they will take you for a ride....Frank