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macojoe 06-01-2006 07:15 PM

MJ's Blown Piston
 
Ok just for kicks, I took the head off today, here is what I found

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._015.sized.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._014.sized.jpg

http://syncboard.com/albums/Boat-Tac..._018.sized.jpg

Also something you can't see, there is a small hairline crack in the bad sleve of the middle piston.

msbhammer 06-01-2006 08:34 PM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
OUCH ! :-/ :'( :'( :'(

Vic 06-01-2006 09:26 PM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
Oh man sorry to see that MJ. I'm sure you'll have her going in no time.

macojoe 06-01-2006 10:07 PM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
shes done Vic!! I have not the time or cash or no how to repair!!

I am looking to get a motor from Blue-Runner now.

bigshrimpin 06-01-2006 10:45 PM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
MJ - That doesn't look bad at all from the pics. Take a shot of the hairline crack in the cylinder wall for me . . . I've never seen one of those before. There's some nice aluminum skuff and maybe a little scoring from the ring in the middle one?? Can you catch your finger nail on the groove?

macojoe 06-01-2006 11:00 PM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
yea I can catch my nail easy.

I tryed to get that crack to show, its way in when the piston is in. I will try again tomorrow.

Skools Out 06-02-2006 12:04 AM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
yeah that one would need a boring. then see if it's a threw crack if no use it and bore the rest.

Blue_Runner 06-02-2006 01:56 AM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
I must say I was expecting to see something God aweful, but it doesn't look terrifying in the pic. I'm sure the old digi-cam probably can only do it about 30% justice compared to the naked eye though.

Crack kills.

76GMC1500 06-02-2006 03:57 AM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
That's a microseizure tansitioning to a full on seizure. *The metal on the cylinder is obviously aluminum from the piston being transferred to the cylinder wall. *Microseizures are generally caused by lack of lubrication, but can be caused by overheating. *Overheating localized to one cylinder is caused by lean fuel/air ratios, detonation, and advanced ignition timing. *This is a carbureted motor where oil is mixed in the carb? *I will say that the problem was caused by the carubretor. *If you do plan to reuse these carbs, REBUILD the one from the bad cylinder and have the others checked out before installing them on a new motor or you could end up in the same position.

Now, you want to get back on the water for cheap? *You have here what is a mostly good motor short of one cylinder and one carburetor. *How mechanically inclined are you? *You could strip the motor down to a bare block and take the block to the best machine shop in town. *You will get the best rates at an automotive machine shop, the process is the same regardless of application. *Any hotrod shop that deals with newer engines will be the best. *To sleeve a cast iron engine block, parts and labor come to $90 per cylinder. *Of course, your engine being an aluminum cast in liner engine can add some complicatoin and can add a little to the price of labor and the liner cost is going to be sky high. *If the liner is thick enough, they can just bore inside of the liner and install a sleeve just like on an iron block. *If the liner is thin, they have to bore the old liner completely out and start from scratch. *This is a little more costly. *For the best deal on a replacement piston, go to Wiseco. *They make drop in replacement pistons for a lot of engines. *If the failure is lubrication related, *you may want to replace the adjacent main bearings and connecting rod big end bearing. *You will certainly want to replace the connecting rod small end bearing as there is a good chance it was overheated. *Your wrist pin will probably come out blue and gold from the heat.

On further examination, I take back what I say about lubrication related. *That is definately an overheat failure. *Lubrication microseizures take place low in the cylinder where the piston skirt transmitts connecting rod thrust to the side of the cylinder. *The majority of the material is located at the top of the cylinder where the piston shouldn't make contact with the cylinder wall. *What appears to have happend to me is that your piston ring failed (causing the low compression readings you got earlier in the season). *The failed piston ring allowed combustion gasses to blow past the piston and heat it up to the point of seizure. *I feel confident in telling you that your ring failed because if it were still intact, it would have scuffed much of the aluminum deposits off of the cylinder wall.

Repirts 06-02-2006 10:41 AM

Re: MJ's Blown Piston
 
Hi MJ,

It has been a long time since I last posted but I feel that you need some encouragement with this. As you will remeber I blew my 175 Merc a couple of seasons ago and was really bummed out. But, all has turned out ok.

Get the manufactures manual and a lot of plastic baggies for parts, pull the power head and take it down the basement. Tear that sucker down to the block. It's a 2 cycle- hardly any parts at all! Get it to a machine shop and get an estimate- might not be too bad!

I did it with my engine. No experience necessary. Did mine in just a few nights.

Go for it! What do you have to lose?

Go for it


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