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oteps 09-11-2018 06:49 PM

force lower unit question
 
98 force 120. I am replacing the water pump impeller. Lower unit is off. I was going to shift it by hand but it is stuck in reverse? THe shaft moves a little over a half turn. Seems like the shaft on the motor moves about a spline width back and forth. THis motor has a splined shaft that turns not the one that moves up and down. Does it have to spin fast to shift into gear? My 175 merc wasn't like that.
History on motor. My father inlaw just purchased the boat. Ran 2 weekends but then shut off. My brotherinlaw "worked" on it. Had his buddy clean the carbs and put new plugs in. It ran on ear muffs but he said no water was coming out.
I should have ran it before I took the lower unit off but its an easy fix I didn't think about it then.

bradford 09-11-2018 07:07 PM

Wish I could offer quality technical advice, but the two parts that make me cringe is "brother in law" and "worked on it". :oh:

Someone with expertise hopefully will be able to talk you through it here soon.

oteps 09-12-2018 05:34 AM

I was hoping there was something simple I missed before I tear the lower unit apart.

oteps 09-12-2018 06:19 PM

Also there is no detent. From what I remember on my 175 there was a detent for forward, reverse and neutral. I might pull the gear case out tonight.

Destroyer 09-12-2018 10:18 PM

Force is Mercury. Mercury uses a splined shaft. On my 1993 Merc when I have the lower off for water pump repair I can turn the shift shaft by gently putting a pair of vice grips on it with just enough clamping force to hold on, then twisting in either direction to shift it. I would think the force would be the same. Try spinning the prop by hand while twisting. :head:

oteps 09-13-2018 04:27 AM

I tried that. Nothing. I wonder if when I took lower unit off the shift shaft stuck and came out of the cam. I never had a shift shaft out. Not sure what holds the cam to the shaft.

phatdaddy 09-13-2018 08:39 AM

when u removed the foot, did u have it in reverse? like d says, the throw on the splined shaft in the foot is not very much.

if u don't feel like you have moved anything, i'd stick it back on the motor and test by spinning prop and shifting from the controls

oteps 09-13-2018 04:40 PM

I got it. Just had to turn the shaft like I was trying to break it. Somehow I must have turned the cam too much and was backwards. That's why it would spin half way around with no detent. Now I have all 3 detents.

Destroyer 09-14-2018 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oteps (Post 237031)
I got it. Just had to turn the shaft like I was trying to break it. Somehow I must have turned the cam too much and was backwards. That's why it would spin half way around with no detent. Now I have all 3 detents.



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