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jvitiel 12-27-2016 07:12 PM

Which trolling rod?
 
Hi All,

I'm a junior fisherman and I just got a Penn Squall SQL20LWLC for Christmas.

I want to use it to troll for Stripers in the Long Island Sound and Sandy Hook Bay. I'm guessing that I will drag MoJo's with it but not sure.

Can anyone recommend a modest but reliable rod to go with it?

Thanks !

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step up here 12-27-2016 08:47 PM

During the winter months every Sunday their are fishing Flea Markets thru out Jersey.Go to Mac's bait & tackle Tuckerton NJ look up fishing flea markets.
Its a good start to find a modest price used rod along with some info. My rods are 7.5' long with a light action tip to give that pumping action for a bunker spoon. Usually striper trolling rods are seven to eight foot and capable of trolling wire.(carbide guides).

SkunkBoat 12-27-2016 08:58 PM

Before I talk about a rod....

If you are going to do wire line, I can't comment with any authority other than to say its probably not an ideal wire line reel.

Trolling double Mojos, I use a Shimano tld15(30#)with 30# braid and a tld25(50#) with40# mono.

The "20" in SQL20LWLC means its a "20#" sized reel.
imo, thats a little lite for trolling mojos that can weigh 2 pounds but you can go with the lighter sizes.

I'm assuming you are loading it with 30# braid. it'll hold 650 yds.
Personally i would not go up to 50# on a 20# reel as you might have trouble breaking off bottom snaggs

As for rods, to troll a double Mojo, you should look for a graphite 6'6" Medium/Heavy 20-40#

so you look for model numbers like 66MH Line:20-40

My TLD25 is on an Ande 7' Heavy action.

I always have to stand in the aisle and play with them for a while. I look for heavy duty Fuji guides.
You should be able to find a decent rod to match that reel for $70 to $140
Brands that I have liked are Shimano, Tsunami(bargain priced), StarRods, Ande


PS. With the line counter that will make a good jigging outfit too. You can get to the right depth every time.

jvitiel 12-28-2016 08:56 AM

Thanks Guys,

Yea, being new I'm trying to keep it simple so no wire or bunker spoon rods just yet. I have been to a few flea markets and they are good but can get confusing so thanks for the insight that will allow me to do some research before I go.

I only had a vague idea that the numbers in the model number related to line strength so that is very helpful. 6'6" with 30# braid and medium/heavy seems like a good plan so I will look over the brands you mentioned. I'm guessing that I will look for one with a slick butt too if I can.

I hadn't considered the line counter for jigging but that makes total sense - thanks.

jamesbalog 12-28-2016 10:18 AM

Make sure you calibrate that line counter or it will be useless

jvitiel 12-28-2016 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jamesbalog (Post 230781)
Make sure you calibrate that line counter or it will be useless

Good point. I never considered that. Thanks for sending me to YouTube on that one..

phatdaddy 12-28-2016 11:53 AM

Rods are one of the few exceptions where u always don't get what u pay for. Like skunk, i look at the guides and seat. I don't like a roller tip, lotta people do. I troll with 60 lb power-pro, but only for king mackeral with dead baits and grouper with plugs. When i troll for spanish, i use ambassador 4000/5000

I like Star rods for best bang for buck.

SkunkBoat 12-28-2016 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jvitiel (Post 230780)
Thanks Guys,

Yea, being new I'm trying to keep it simple so no wire or bunker spoon rods just yet. I have been to a few flea markets and they are good but can get confusing so thanks for the insight that will allow me to do some research before I go.

I only had a vague idea that the numbers in the model number related to line strength so that is very helpful. 6'6" with 30# braid and medium/heavy seems like a good plan so I will look over the brands you mentioned. I'm guessing that I will look for one with a slick butt too if I can.

I hadn't considered the line counter for jigging but that makes total sense - thanks.

Reel numbers can be confusing. Shimano TLDs are sized in kilograms not pounds so a TLD15 is a 32# sized reel. To make it more confusing, they sized the 2 Speed TLD50 in pounds not kg because people were confused when comparing to a Penn International.

jvitiel 12-28-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SkunkBoat (Post 230786)
Reel numbers can be confusing. Shimano TLDs are sized in kilograms not pounds so a TLD15 is a 32# sized reel. To make it more confusing, they sized the 2 Speed TLD50 in pounds not kg because people were confused when comparing to a Penn International.

Interesting. I saw in your first post that you labeled the TDL 15 as ~30#. I assumed that they were just doubling it for some reason but I got the connection. I never considered that it would be metric but I guess why not?

So I was looking at rods a bunch online today and the Shimano's were too expensive and the Amia was only $60 and only specified 'premium' guides. I was liking the Star and Tsunamis. Star in particular had a ton of options but was confused about some terminology.

I have a Charter Special on a beater rod and assumed that going forward I would be using that for jigging etc. That left this rod for mostly being trolled in a rod holder and then me pulling it out of the rod holder and fighting the fish while standing up. So, given that, what is the distinction between 'boat' rods (which I assume to be 'standard' trolling rods) and 'standup' rods. I liked that the standups mostly had slick butts and longer foregrips which seems to make sense for my use case but it seemed that they were all short, more expensive and fewer choices. Are they that specialized and/or somehow inappropriate for what I'm trying to accomplish? It seems that standing up would be the typical/popular configuration...

Thanks as always !

SkunkBoat 12-28-2016 11:16 PM

Standups are generally for tuna/shark chunking, short & powerful, long foregrips.

I have a pair of 7' Tsunamis MH with 30# reels that do everything from fluking, bottomfishing, jigging striper & blues, trolling plugs and live lining bunker for stripers.
That would match up well with your reel for an all around utility rod.


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