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charlie_the_tuna 06-05-2014 09:36 PM

ok spare, ferm, etc........
 
so I get it. you guys like the Cherokee. not many good ones around. when did they stop making them? is there a GRAND Cherokee that is as reliable? there are a ton of these around and they're pretty cheap. I like a lower truck because it'll be easier for my little guy to get his kayak off the roof.

smokeonthewater 06-05-2014 09:56 PM

Grands ARE cheap but will NEVER be as reliable as a cherokee (or wrangler for that matter) with the 4.0 in it

THEFERMANATOR 06-05-2014 10:49 PM

The 4.0L is a great engine, nobody can argue that. The CHEROKEE got the TOYOTA built AW4 trans, and it is nearly bullet proof(a bullet will stop one, don't ask how I know). The CHEROKEE and WRANGLERS with autos got DODGE trannies are known to fail anytime after 60K miles. The GRAND CHEROKEES also normally had alot of electric comfort features that can be REALLY expensive to repair after they get to be 10 years old. GRANDS also had alot of rear end troubles, and the 4X4's lost alot of front driveshafts and CV axles. The smaller CHEROKEE was made from 84-01. I like the 91-95 myself, but 96 is a close 2nd. 97-01 changed the interior to a nicer interior, but I'm not a fan of some of the driveline changes they made to them.

Destroyer 06-05-2014 10:51 PM

A grand Cherokee with the 4.0L in it is pretty reliable, but NOT the ones with the V6's and V8's in them.

You can still find good Jeep Cherokee Sports on eBay, but as the supply gets smaller the prices are getting higher. They are appreciating in price. Mine is a 98' Sport with fuel injection, it gets an honest 20.1 mpg on the open highway and has over 200K on it. If at all possible, get a fuel injection one...they are so much easier to start than the older carb ones.

This one has caught my eye on eBay.. I'd go 5k and maybe even a bit more on it presuming that a car fax report came back ok. Real low milage, that engine has 200k left on it easy. Drivers seat is not torn on the door side (a common event) Upholstery looks in good condition. And it's not that far from you. If I were in the market for a Cherokee I'd DEFINITELY give this one a look/see. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Cheroke...US_Cars_Trucks

THEFERMANATOR 06-05-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 214253)
A grand Cherokee with the 4.0L in it is pretty reliable, but NOT the ones with the V6's and V8's in them.

You can still find good Jeep Cherokee Sports on eBay, but as the supply gets smaller the prices are getting higher. They are appreciating in price. Mine is a 98' Sport with fuel injection, it gets an honest 20.1 mpg on the open highway and has over 200K on it. If at all possible, get a fuel injection one...they are so much easier to start than the older carb ones.

This one has caught my eye on eBay.. I'd go 5k and maybe even a bit more on it presuming that a car fax report came back ok. Real low milage, that engine has 200k left on it easy. Drivers seat is not torn on the door side (a common event) Upholstery looks in good condition. And it's not that far from you. If I were in the market for a Cherokee I'd DEFINITELY give this one a look/see. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Cheroke...US_Cars_Trucks

Fuel injection has been standard equipment on ALL 4.0L's, and ALL CHEROKEES since 87(the 2.5L 4 banger got it in 85 or 86). Carbs pretty well went away in the 80's for most all CHRYSLER products with the WRANGLER being one of the last holdouts due to the 4.2L engine, but starting in 91 they were ALL injected. GRANDS still have that POS torqueflite derivitive tranny in them(unless you can luck out and find an EARLY built 93 GRAND with an AW4), and is the sole reason I wouldn't own one. STarting in 99 you could get the 4.7L V8 though that used a pretty good trans, the 45RFE(later became known as the 545RFE when they added an extra OD, and a software update is available to add 5th to the earlier models).

Destroyer 06-06-2014 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR (Post 214254)
Fuel injection has been standard equipment on ALL 4.0L's, and ALL CHEROKEES since 87(the 2.5L 4 banger got it in 85 or 86). Carbs pretty well went away in the 80's for most all CHRYSLER products with the WRANGLER being one of the last holdouts due to the 4.2L engine, but starting in 91 they were ALL injected. GRANDS still have that POS torqueflite derivitive tranny in them(unless you can luck out and find an EARLY built 93 GRAND with an AW4), and is the sole reason I wouldn't own one. STarting in 99 you could get the 4.7L V8 though that used a pretty good trans, the 45RFE(later became known as the 545RFE when they added an extra OD, and a software update is available to add 5th to the earlier models).

Yep. Agree on the fuel injection ... reason I mentioned it is my neighbor has a Jeep Wrangler with the 4.0 and a carb, and every winter you can hear him grinding the starter trying to get the thing to start. Once it's started it's great, but it's a bear to coax when it's really cold. Mine, on the other hand, I put the key in and it starts in seconds. I love it.

As to the tranny comments, I know they have had some bad reps , but honestly, I've never had ANY trouble with my auto trans, transfer case, drivelines or differentials. I'll still say that as long as that Cherokee in that link I put up has a clean record I'd seriously consider buying it. That one looks like a winner..

spareparts 06-06-2014 06:09 AM

the 95 I had took more abuse than any vehicle I've every owned. I gave it to my sister and 6 months later, the transmission took a dump. It was two wheel drive and those transmissions are hard to find. 6 months later, I found a guy who sold me one for $20. I swapped it out and put it up for sale. I got $1500 for it. If i had a place to store it, I would have kept it just to have a spare vehicle. Ny daughter just turned 14, so I'm probably going to start looking for another one for her first vehicle. They are great vehicles, hard to kill(I tried).

Road King Cole 06-06-2014 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 214253)
.... If I were in the market for a Cherokee I'd DEFINITELY give this one a look/see. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Cheroke...US_Cars_Trucks

AND it's GREEN!!!

rkc

Destroyer 06-06-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Road King Cole (Post 214258)
AND it's GREEN!!!

rkc

Yep.

Truthfully, not my favorite color, but it goes well with the tan interior they offered with the vehicles. Tan, black and light grey seemed to be the only choices available for interiors... I'm sure there must be more, but that's about all I've ever seen. Anyways, that particular combo works nicely.

THEFERMANATOR 06-06-2014 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 214256)
Yep. Agree on the fuel injection ... reason I mentioned it is my neighbor has a Jeep Wrangler with the 4.0 and a carb, and every winter you can hear him grinding the starter trying to get the thing to start. Once it's started it's great, but it's a bear to coax when it's really cold. Mine, on the other hand, I put the key in and it starts in seconds. I love it.

As to the tranny comments, I know they have had some bad reps , but honestly, I've never had ANY trouble with my auto trans, transfer case, drivelines or differentials. I'll still say that as long as that Cherokee in that link I put up has a clean record I'd seriously consider buying it. That one looks like a winner..

They never made a 4.0L with a carb, he either has a 4.2L or put a carb on it. And if the carb is right, they start right up even carbed. I know the CARTER feedback carb is tough for most to repair, but when they're right they work great. And there is a HUGE difference between a CHEROKEE, and a GRAND CHEROKEE when it comes to the driveline. They share virtually nothing in common with each other except for the 4.0L engine, and even then the engines don't always interchange as the GRAND CHEROKEE uses it's own mounting points on the block in some years. The regular CHEROKEE had a pretty tough drivetrain except for later years with the crappy CHRYSLER 8.25" bearing eating rear axle. Some of them ran forever, but the 8.25" rear axles gave more grief I think than the DANA 35 that came in the GRAND CHEROKEE. But the DANA 35 that came in the regular CHEROKEE rarely gave trouble.

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Originally Posted by spareparts (Post 214257)
the 95 I had took more abuse than any vehicle I've every owned. I gave it to my sister and 6 months later, the transmission took a dump. It was two wheel drive and those transmissions are hard to find. 6 months later, I found a guy who sold me one for $20. I swapped it out and put it up for sale. I got $1500 for it. If i had a place to store it, I would have kept it just to have a spare vehicle. Ny daughter just turned 14, so I'm probably going to start looking for another one for her first vehicle. They are great vehicles, hard to kill(I tried).

I've got one of them 2WD AW4's sitting under a tarp outside. Have no use for it whatsoever.


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