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BuilderFL 06-26-2009 12:25 PM

Intermittent Problem - need ideas!
 
Motor was working poorly, assumed that I had a power pack or coil problem (which I***8217;m getting thru bigshrimpin), however I cleaned the carburetors and she started up right away, with higher rpm that it***8217;s had been set at. I figured, the cleaning did her good. For good measures, a replaced the fuel pump diaphragm kit, the fuel filter/water separator, adjusted the rpm to 900 and the motor was working perfect. Took her out yesterday, nice idle rpm at the ramp and she ran like never before, doing about 42 mph, which for a heavy boat like mine, it***8217;s very good. Ran for about half an hour and when I reached a no wake zone that I slowed down, the motor turned off. She would start, but it would not go beyond 1,200 rpm. Every time I tried, she would bog down. I did notice that if I pressed the choke while running, she would increase rpm rather than decrease. Pushing the choke off and on in 15 seconds intervals, she would gradually increase the rpm to running speed, however the rpm would intermittently drop and go back up by about 300 rpm. I did make it back to the marina and she would not idle, increased the rpm and noticed that she would start, but the moment I put her in gear, she would shut down. She started again back at home, but sounds like it***8217;s running at reduced power.
Any ideas? :head:
1989 Mercury 200HP
Thanks,

Blue_Runner 06-26-2009 01:04 PM

Sheer speculation but it almost sounds like a fuel pump issue?? :head:

bigshrimpin 06-26-2009 03:15 PM

Sounds fuel related (starved for fuel) . . . like the Anti-siphon is bunged up or you have water in fuel (fuel water separator is full) . . . before you mess with the motor . . . Try running off a 6 gallon tank with fresh fuel and a new hose/bulb and see if there is any difference.

spareparts 06-26-2009 06:46 PM

check the fule filter and then get some one to pump the bulb while its running to see if it will run OK(indicates fuel pump or restriction)

BuilderFL 06-27-2009 07:47 AM

I will try the 6 gallon tank with fresh fuel and a new hose/bulb and get back with my results. By the way, if there a way to test the bulb? My water filter separator has a bottom bowl that can be drained, which I have done several times without any change in performance. Should it still be replaced?

Cam 06-27-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BuilderFL (Post 143429)
I will try the 6 gallon tank with fresh fuel and a new hose/bulb and get back with my results. By the way, if there a way to test the bulb? My water filter separator has a bottom bowl that can be drained, which I have done several times without any change in performance. Should it still be replaced?


Could still be clogged. This ethanol in the gas is screwing with everyone's performance.:cry:

macojoe 06-27-2009 10:54 AM

Draining the bowl is for getting rid of the water that might build up, but the filter is to clean the dirt and will clog in time, always start the season with a new filter and carry a spare!!

richie410 06-28-2009 12:30 PM

Could be stuck check ball in fuel tank depending on type of tank you have. I have above deck side tanks and we just took the check ball out because they great for sticking.That was on my V20. I also had problem on small boat with 50hp wouldn't idle but if sped up would run but run like ****. It was dirty porcelain on outside of plug. Wires were firing over outside of plug to ground and had bad gas on top of that.

bigshrimpin 06-29-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuilderFL (Post 143429)
I will try the 6 gallon tank with fresh fuel and a new hose/bulb and get back with my results. By the way, if there a way to test the bulb? My water filter separator has a bottom bowl that can be drained, which I have done several times without any change in performance. Should it still be replaced?

What's the good word? When you run the 6 gallon go straight to the motor and use a different hose/bulb/fitting. Also was the engine Hot when it stall out?

BuilderFL 07-06-2009 08:11 PM

First let me say thanks to Macojoe for setting me up with Bigshrimpin and the spare power packs he sent me. :clap:
The six-gallon tank solved the issue. As it turn out, you guys were right...tons of water in my tank and the motor was starving for fuel. I figured, (of course, we are all geniuses in hindsight) that since water is heavier than gasoline and that the two don’t mix, the water sits in the bottom of the tank were the fuel pick up is located. And no matter how much fresh fuel you add, the water will still be there. Anyway, motor is working fine, can't get it to idle at 850 rpm, but 950 is good with me. Now I have a clean carburetor, new fuel filter, clean fuel and two replacement power packs installed. Got out on Saturday, ran all day without any issues and although I did not catch the Dolphins I was looking for, I did land a mean 4’ barracuda that went back in the water after a stressful hook release.
Again, thank y'all!
Bill :beer:


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