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rb437 03-22-2009 07:47 PM

Need a better price for manifold and riser
 
I have noticed that I have been losing coolant from the fresh water side of the system and pressure testing shows that the system is not holding pressure. I haven't identified a specific leak but Spareparts posted some notes on this engine a couple of years ago that identified the gasket between the manifold and riser as a common problem. I can't find any external leaks so I pulled the riser off to check the gasket between the manifold and riser. There is corrosion up to the bolt hole closest to the #4 cylinder and that bolt brought most of the threads from the aluminum manifold with it when it came out. I hoped to find only a bad gasket when I took this apart but obviously that was way to optimistic. So now I'm looking for a good price on a manifold and riser. The cheapest I've found so far is $750.00 for the manifold and $150.00 for the riser, plus shipping. Anyone got a line on something cheaper? It seems that this is not a common part anymore and they're expensive.

THEFERMANATOR 03-22-2009 08:05 PM

Not sure which one you have, but these guys had the best prices when I bought parts a few years back for an I/O. There aftermarket parts, but seem to be good quality.

http://www.ebasicpower.com/

spareparts 03-22-2009 08:28 PM

I think ther may be a cast iron aftermarket manifold that will replace the aluminum one, I'll check around adn see what I can find. If you can't get anywhere ebasicpower.com, try calling them( I hate their sire), they don't allways have everything on the site. They are very helpfull and may come up with an answer

THEFERMANATOR 03-22-2009 08:51 PM

Found these.

New http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Exhau...QQcmdZViewItem

Used http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MERCR...QQcmdZViewItem

Enforcer 03-23-2009 05:12 PM

Do the buy it now on the 2nd one you will be ahead of the game big time!! 8 years ago i did the same job as you for $700 parts also! OUCH

spareparts 03-23-2009 06:59 PM

I came up with a zero on the manifold, the risers are available after market

rb437 03-23-2009 07:01 PM

Ouch is right. I just did the buy it now on the used manifold and riser. $210.00 for both as compared to $900.00 for new. I know they won't as long but If I can get a couple of years out of them, I'm good. If something major in the engine or outdrive goes this could become good bracket / outboard project and then I'll be glad I didn't spend The $900.00. Oh well its a boat, this is part of the fun, right?

Thanks, Spare and Ferm for looking

rb437 04-04-2009 05:32 PM

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I guess this should be in the repair section, but I started it here so....

In the first shot, the riser is off

Second shot, a close up of the corrosion, this is the bolt that pulled the threads out when removing.

last shot, the manifold is off. You can see evidence of coolant in the #3 & #4 cylinders.

I also had to remove the heat exchanger and re-tap the raw water drain plug hole and install a new drain plug. The old one came apart in the fall when I tried to loosen it to drain the heat exchanger. This was easier with the manifold out of the way. Got the "new" manifold on except for a hole on the heat riser that needs a plug, its ready to start and check it out.

throwback 04-04-2009 07:25 PM

manifold
 
Osco motors usually is about the best call them direct in soudeton pa its otside of phillie you can deal with them direct

bksah2 04-04-2009 07:48 PM

coolant leak
 
Hi;;if the 165hp you have is loseing coolant it is proberlly from the water pump cam seals the 165 170 470 motors are famous for this and if it is not corrected it will leak into the oil and destroy the motor... there is a weep hole between the seals and thats where you are probably loseing coolant ,,,looking at the front of the motor he weep hole i located on the left side/front a good way to check is whipe a white paper towl down there if there coolant that your problem ..just google 470 motors (coolant leak) and it will be more detailed....Bksah2


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