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lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 04:54 PM

Tanks out and steerings out
 
does anyone who has pulled there tanks find a pvc pipe under it?

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mushman 02-15-2008 05:51 PM

Looks nice and clean in there.How'd it come out? was it a real P.I.T.A. ?

whale 02-15-2008 05:56 PM

lumber....

My tank had the same PVC pipe under it. It appeared to be there to allow water to pass from the forward bilge to the rear under the tank due to the foam all around the tank that could have obstructed the flow otherwise. The ends on mine were all rotten (if that's the right word for deteriorated PVC). I suspect it had something to do with the gas leak. I wonder if gas dissolves PVC over time?? I do not plan to reinstall a PVC pipe since my new tank will not be foamed. As long as the flow is not obstructed by the tank I see no reason for the PVC.

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mushman (Post 113608)
Looks nice and clean in there.How'd it come out? was it a real P.I.T.A. ?

Mush, I didnt take it out. I had someone do it . and he wound up cutting a hole in both ends of the tank and put a chain thru it an pulled it out with a fork lift.

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by whale (Post 113609)
lumber....

My tank had the same PVC pipe under it. It appeared to be there to allow water to pass from the forward bilge to the rear under the tank due to the foam all around the tank that could have obstructed the flow otherwise. The ends on mine were all rotten (if that's the right word for deteriorated PVC). I suspect it had something to do with the gas leak. I wonder if gas dissolves PVC over time?? I do not plan to reinstall a PVC pipe since my new tank will not be foamed. As long as the flow is not obstructed by the tank I see no reason for the PVC.


Whale, I figured it had to be original . Are you putting in a plastic tank? Iam haveing mine refabircated from the original 1 inch smaller in diamention and I think hes going to make it two inches taller in height and it wont be foamed in , it will have heavy rubber attached to the bottom. its an aluminum tank powder coated. I will have more pics when the tanks done.

mushman 02-15-2008 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberslinger178 (Post 113613)
Mush, I didnt take it out. I had someone do it . and he wound up cutting a hole in both ends of the tank and put a chain thru it an pulled it out with a fork lift.


Yea, I read your original post a few weeks back.I was just wondering if it was a ball breaker.
Chain and forklift seem like the way to go.

willy 02-15-2008 07:26 PM

I know some manufacturers use pvc tubing for wire runs bow to stern, but they would not run them along the keel area would they?

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 07:50 PM

heres the guy whos doin my work.

http://www.aqua-marine.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx

jasoncooperpcola 02-15-2008 08:02 PM

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Lumber that pipe is a water passage for water to flow from bow to stern. I'm pretty sure it was sealed up pretty tight on both ends so water could not come in contact with the tank. We had a problem in our V like that. The water would just sit up front and verry slowly piddle down to the stern when we We drilled two four inch holes in the livewell and using a water hose to loosed up the crud we was able to pull all the cloggings out, It hasn't given us a probelm since.

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 08:17 PM

Iam thinkin Iam gonna paint the inside of this with some epoxy paint or something to seal the area

Airslot 02-15-2008 08:37 PM

I'm sure you've double checked, but is 2" taller gonna fit?

Funny, after thisafternoon, my helm looks zackally like yours...:pic:

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Airslot (Post 113626)
I'm sure you've double checked, but is 2" taller gonna fit?

Funny, after thisafternoon, my helm looks zackally like yours...:pic:


yepper , with the old tank there was about 6-8 inches from top of tank to top of deck:happy:

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 09:15 PM

air can you get us some pics????

Airslot 02-15-2008 09:33 PM

I'll take pics Sunday or Monday as I get into it for real. When I got home today it was nice and I had about 40 minutes of daylight, so I started to take apart my old stuff. Had to remove the lower glove box to get the helm out. I'll use the steering cable to fish the hydraulic hoses, with an added pull string. It's really not a hard install...and the hard part is bleeding a new set up, but my neighbor is gonna let me use his power bleeder:pic:

lumberslinger178 02-15-2008 09:46 PM

The more pics the better:hide: The guys who are doing mine had the engine off and put the part in that goes on the motor and I wish i was there to watch:pic:

whale 02-16-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lumberslinger178 (Post 113615)
Whale, I figured it had to be original . Are you putting in a plastic tank? Iam haveing mine refabircated from the original 1 inch smaller in diamention and I think hes going to make it two inches taller in height and it wont be foamed in , it will have heavy rubber attached to the bottom. its an aluminum tank powder coated. I will have more pics when the tanks done.

Yeah.....I picked up a 40 gallon plastic tank for cheap.....I test fit it today and it slid right in.

lumberslinger178 02-16-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by whale (Post 113668)
Yeah.....I picked up a 40 gallon plastic tank for cheap.....I test fit it today and it slid right in.

That sounds like a plan whale, are you going to seal the hull be 4 you install the new tank? and how are you planning on fastening it back in.

Stinky_Hooker 02-16-2008 07:57 PM

WOW!!

Better you than me ol buddy!!


:oh:

Airslot 02-18-2008 08:32 AM

Lumber, how's it going? I've got to download some pics, but as for progress...the helm is in, and the hydraulic lines are hooked to the helm and run to the stern. I was supposed to finish today, but it looks like it may rain all day?

I'm not real satisfied with my helm mounting position. I front mounted mine, as per the instrucutions...it puts the steering wheel a good 2" closer to you. I may have to move the seat back to regain some room. Either that, or look at t a rear mount helm. Not sure what I'm gonna do just yet.

On a side note...I knew there was a good chance that a fuel tank was in my future. The only time I ever got a wiff of fumes was when I filled up. Well, in order to make it easier to run the hyraulic lines, I removed the rod box on that side, and what did I find...my vent line laying in the bottom. Seems the fitting had rotted and fallen apart. Now it looks like I need a $10 fitting instead of a tank. Glad I did this steering job...saved me a pile of money...

Blue_Runner 02-18-2008 09:16 AM

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The only time I ever got a wiff of fumes was when I filled up.
I suspect I have a leak in my vent or fill tube b/c I get this too at fillup. I try not to fill it ALL the way up for this reason.

whale 02-18-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by lumberslinger178 (Post 113677)
That sounds like a plan whale, are you going to seal the hull be 4 you install the new tank? and how are you planning on fastening it back in.

I had no plans to seal the hull.....it is the same surface as the rest of the bilge so I think it should not need anything. As for how I am securing it, I am still pondering different ideas.

Airslot 02-18-2008 06:00 PM

Lumber...

I've solved my dilema about the steeting wheel. Talked to my dealer this morning. He gave me a kit the allows the helm to be recessed into the dash.

We're gonna pull the motor Saturday morning at 0830 so that I can get the old steering out, and install the new rod. Wish it was the new motor going on, but maybe later this summer:drool:

lumberslinger178 02-18-2008 06:47 PM

:happy:
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Originally Posted by Airslot (Post 113737)
Lumber, how's it going? I've got to download some pics, but as for progress...the helm is in, and the hydraulic lines are hooked to the helm and run to the stern. I was supposed to finish today, but it looks like it may rain all day?

I'm not real satisfied with my helm mounting position. I front mounted mine, as per the instrucutions...it puts the steering wheel a good 2" closer to you. I may have to move the seat back to regain some room. Either that, or look at t a rear mount helm. Not sure what I'm gonna do just yet.

On a side note...I knew there was a good chance that a fuel tank was in my future. The only time I ever got a wiff of fumes was when I filled up. Well, in order to make it easier to run the hyraulic lines, I removed the rod box on that side, and what did I find...my vent line laying in the bottom. Seems the fitting had rotted and fallen apart. Now it looks like I need a $10 fitting instead of a tank. Glad I did this steering job...saved me a pile of money...


Sounds like your making progress air, Iam not sure what my steerings going to look like. Iam sure its going to be ok, Glad to hear you figured out your gas smell, I thought the same thing this passed summer so I had all my hoses replaced and still had strong odor of gas so i decided to yank the tank out this winter and iam glad I did because it was corroded pretty bad around the seams . :happy:

lumberslinger178 02-18-2008 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by whale (Post 113746)
I had no plans to seal the hull.....it is the same surface as the rest of the bilge so I think it should not need anything. As for how I am securing it, I am still pondering different ideas.

whale, I asked the guy doing my work about sealing the area and he said the samething , no need sealing the hull


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