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Transom Swells about half an inch
The Transom on my 1982 V20 swells about 1/2 inch when it goes in the water in the Spring then shrinks back 1/2 inch over the Winter while covered on land. The Sheet Metal Cap on the Transon Cutout that is on either side of the OB is stretched out and does not appear to shrink back to what was the original thickness. I am going to take that sheet metal cap off and at least cover it back up with a new sheet metal cap, lots of 5200 and or fiberglass. I have drilled a few holes in the transom over time and used lots of 5200 in the holes so I do not think water is coming in from them. Anyone one know what I should be looking for when I take that cap off, other than wet rotton wood? How do you know if it is repairable vs replacing the entire Transom? Do I just re-cap it and use the boat until the engine falls off?
Thanks in advance for any insight. Billfish16 |
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Check out Boomsurf's thread under performance. MJ just posted an snswer that fits here.
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Bill,
You might not see much wood when you remove the cap. At least on the later 80's boats I have seen, Wellcraft wraps fiberglass (and gel coat) up and over the top of the transom notch. Only a small separation exists - between the fiberglass skin of the outer transom and the inner liner. Your situation doesnt sound good and the damage is probably already done. However, if it were me, I wouldnt take any action just yet. Keep a close eye all the time ... and look for signs of weakness and deterioration of the transom (cracking). Force the issue - have someone stand on the motor L/U and look for flexing or movement - inside the bildge and out. I wouldnt consider repair work unless you see some actual signs of damage. However, if you use your boat offshore most of the time - maybe that warrants repair. |
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I disagree! If that transom is bad, you might just find out when the motor is in the water!!
Wouldn't be the first time a motor fell off a bad transom! Or be like whopper who found his boat sunk on the dock, cause not sure of yet, but was needing a Transom before the sinking. Do this, grab the lower unit and lift with your hands, try lifting the boat off the ground and move side to side. I am betting that there is movement!! Next take a drill and drill some small 1/4 holes in a few different areas of the transom. Clean looking wood come out the hole, Good Back wood coming out the hole, Bad wet wood (replace transom soon) DIRT coming out the hole, All is lost!! Replace transom ASAP You might find some good wood near the top, the bottom is were the real dirt will be! Good Luck! |
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I have an 86 v-20 and I removed the cap, no wood could be seen. She was wrapped tight in fiberglass.
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Billfish, your transom sounds like it is due for rebuild if it's swelling like that ... do drill-test MJ said and go ahead and find a good fiberglass repair shop; get references and check them out ;) ...
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Take Pics. for us. ;D ;D NOW >:( ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Replacing the cap is not going to help your problem it will only cover it up for a little time. I would do as others said and drill a few test holes under the water line and see how the wood looks and leave them open for a couple of day to see if any water comes out. I replaced my transom about 5 yrs ago by taken the boat apart (removing the inner shell) and it was not that bad of a job. The repair can be made from the inside of the boat and you don't have to tear up the outer shell. If you find it needs replacing and would like to know how we did the repair let me know.
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Stillrunning, if you have pix of the repair, I'll bet most of us would like to see how you did it.
I know that I could learn a few things from a post like that. |
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Hammer wants to see pics of shrinkage ;D
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Well if I jump in the water right now...
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Damm Mulv, I'm not feeling any love from ya today. :-*
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Wifey loves me whenever I swell more then half an inch. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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She fakes it really well MJ, thats all that counts, right. ;D ;D
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Bill, check out Seacast Pourable Transon Repair. I have not used it myself but it could be a viable & economical way to repair your transom. Perhaps some of the GODs can shed some light into this option.
http://www.seawolfindustries.com/seacast.html |
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At those prices, this could be a good fix.
As long as the product does what it says it can. http://transomrepair.com/store/agora...roduct=Seacast |
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anyone ever use this? i didn't even know it existed? ???
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It seems like you would still need to take the boat apart so you could makes sure you have a solid shell to pour into. If you just cut out the wood and framed out the top what happens if you have a hole in the inner shell (which I mean the fiberglass covering the transom)under the splash well. It seems like the product would run into the bottom of the boat in the bildge section. Maybe they addressed that part and I missed as I skimmed over it.
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I've heard good reports on Seacast on other forums. The problem is trying to get all the wood out of the transom because the Seacast won't adhere to wood. On my first project V-20 that I took to the dump, I tried digging out the transom with an electric chainsaw and pry bars. It was near impossible. It could be done but I would think it would be extremely time consuming trying to get it clean enough so the Seacast will adhere. The stuffs not cheap and the shipping is high if I remeber correctly.
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Yo MULV, you been holding out on us. You need to post some pics of your old V. We want Pics. Do it NOW !! >:(
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This stuff has been talked about a lot here, We had a member here that used it, but after the repair he disappeared and we never did get to find out the end result???
Getting all the wood out is the hard part! As for there being a hole big enough for this stuff to go into the bottom of the boat, I don't believe thats a problem. But most of these boats that have a transom replaced also have some damage to the stringers in the bilge. This is were I think the real problem is with the Seacast, you have to repair the stringer and you want it to be part of the transom for support, and secast does not stick to wood. You could just bring the stringers to the inside shell and glass them to the shell with knee boards, But I think it would be much stronger all around to make them as much as one as you can. So I still think removing the inside shell and repair with wood is the best way to go. |
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Hammer the old V was what brought me to this site. She was a lost cause. I stripped the windshield, gas hatch cover, gas tank, bimini top, seat post and hardware and used every last part on my new 79 V including the trailer. I bought her for $350 without power and dumped her for $60. The amount of parts I got off that boat and to be able to use everyone one of them on my current V was destiny.
I will dig up some pics for you Hammer since I've been giving you a hard time lately ;) |
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Here is another link that shows how it's done.
There is a lot of information to be had by just exploring the different links. http://transomrepair.com/zk/transom.shtml and some info on stringers: http://transomrepair.com/zk/stringers.shtml |
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I'll be waiting Mulv for those pics. I'm still bumming over the shrinkage. >:( :o ;D ;D
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Mulv. Now means NOW !! >:( >:(
We want Pics. dude. ;) |
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You outta do-nuts up there, Hammer?...soundin' a little ''testy'' in yer old age ;) ;D ... |
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RP, I think his wife types his posts for him. Maybe the reason he always wants pics is because he can't read. I may be wrong though. I better watch it. I have relatives that live in Lewes. ;)
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It is the off season, need pics to keep us guys going until we can get our boats wet again. relatives in Lewes, Hmmm, Where ?? ;D
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I did some boat work for one of my neighbors on some rotted wood and what I did was cleaned out the rotted wood as best as I could and then I poured resin and layed glass. I wasn't able to get every bit of wood out but I hand painted a coat of resin over everything. Before it hardened I used seacast foam on top of that. He still has the boat and so far (knock on wood) it hasn't shown any signs of cracking or seperating.
One member is right it's expensive and shipping is almost as bad. |
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hey billfish ,im new to this site too . listen to these fellas they know what theyre talking about, i havea 77 v20 i/o i rebuilt the transom in ,it took a lot of time but it was well worth it. i cut the inner skin out and the wood core was like dirt. i couldnt tell until i cut some small holes in it around the gimble . i then cut it ALL out ,cleaned it up ,and built it back with two layers of marine ply and layers and layers of chopped mat and about eight gallons of resin.i bought the glass and resin from a boat builder (carolina classic) close by. the marine ply was 3/4 inch and was 86.00 a sheet. it is strong as hell now. i hope i never have to worry about it again. carolina classic builders use fir ply ,they say the resin bonds to very good .dont play around with a bad transom ,it is the driving force of the whole boat.
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CFelt, as what I usually say to all, WELCOME to the site and post lots of pics. of your V and the work ya did. *;D
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Thanks to all for your feedback. I live over an hour away from the boat and I plan on visiting her next weekend if the weather is not horrible. I will take pics and post them.
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billfish, I've been keepin' my boat about an hour down the road...15 min from lake...has its drawbacks(can't work on it), but don't have to trailer as far... :D ...
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Attached, I think/hope, are some pics of the transom under the cap.
I drilled down about an inch or two and the shavings seemed to clean and dry. [img]C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\My Documents\My Pictures\May 5 2007[/img] [img]C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\My Documents\My Pictures\May 5 2007[/img] [img]C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\My Documents\My Pictures\May 5 2007[/img] [img]C:\Documents and Settings\Bill\My Documents\My Pictures\May 5 2007[/img] Billfish |
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No pics. :'( :'( :'(
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WOW !!, never seen one in that bad of shape. Great Pics. Thanks. ;)
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