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spareparts 03-17-2007 02:24 PM

Jack Plate
 
any one had any performace gain from adding one to a V-20? I've got to pull the motor to install the hydraulic steering cylinder on my boat, figured while I had if off, it would be a good time to add one.

spareparts 03-17-2007 02:24 PM

Jack Plate
 
any one had any performace gain from adding one to a V-20? I've got to pull the motor to install the hydraulic steering cylinder on my boat, figured while I had if off, it would be a good time to add one.

reelapeelin 03-17-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
If no performance advantage, are there any other reasons ya wanna do a J Plate? ...

reelapeelin 03-17-2007 04:53 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
If no performance advantage, are there any other reasons ya wanna do a J Plate? ...

Mac_Attack 03-17-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Performance gained would have to do with your cavitation plate needing to be raised or lowered. Do you have that problem?

Mac_Attack 03-17-2007 05:58 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Performance gained would have to do with your cavitation plate needing to be raised or lowered. Do you have that problem?

randlemanboater 03-17-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
With a jack plate you can run your motor higher, theoretically gaining performance. *I know the bass boat guys swear by them, on a V-20, I don't know.

I was thinking about putting one on mine to move the motor back 6-8 inches so that I could use the splashwell area to put in a nice sized livewell.

But that brings up steering cable questions, could you route the cable out from where it comes out of the hull now or would you have to bring it out the transom.

Spare won't have that concern with Hyd. steering.

My thoughts...............who else?

randlemanboater 03-17-2007 08:08 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
With a jack plate you can run your motor higher, theoretically gaining performance. *I know the bass boat guys swear by them, on a V-20, I don't know.

I was thinking about putting one on mine to move the motor back 6-8 inches so that I could use the splashwell area to put in a nice sized livewell.

But that brings up steering cable questions, could you route the cable out from where it comes out of the hull now or would you have to bring it out the transom.

Spare won't have that concern with Hyd. steering.

My thoughts...............who else?

reelapeelin 03-17-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randlemanboater

My thoughts...............who else?





If I's gonna start gettin' fancy w/mine, I'd probably go in direction of full transom w/a you-know-what and have an oval bait-well built into the transom...but I would only do all that w/a newer hull ;) ...like yours for instance 8) ...

reelapeelin 03-17-2007 08:24 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by randlemanboater

My thoughts...............who else?





If I's gonna start gettin' fancy w/mine, I'd probably go in direction of full transom w/a you-know-what and have an oval bait-well built into the transom...but I would only do all that w/a newer hull ;) ...like yours for instance 8) ...

spareparts 03-17-2007 10:56 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I've put jack plates on a couple other boats Ive rebuilt in the quest of less draft and better performance. They seem to clean up the splashwell and provide extra room around the motor. SInce my V probably won't be a shallow water boat( not intentionally anyway), I was questioning wheather anyone has increased performance with them.

spareparts 03-17-2007 10:56 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I've put jack plates on a couple other boats Ive rebuilt in the quest of less draft and better performance. They seem to clean up the splashwell and provide extra room around the motor. SInce my V probably won't be a shallow water boat( not intentionally anyway), I was questioning wheather anyone has increased performance with them.

reelapeelin 03-18-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
To my knowledge on this board, no...are you talkin' about a hydraulic JP that can be adjusted on the run?...I can see it helpin' on boat where thrust-to-drag ratio is so great that the hull is runnin' only on the pad...but question JP's efficiency on our "Vs" ;) :D ... sure wouldn't hurt to try ... ya got base-line numbers w/out JP to compare once JP is in place?...

reelapeelin 03-18-2007 12:35 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
To my knowledge on this board, no...are you talkin' about a hydraulic JP that can be adjusted on the run?...I can see it helpin' on boat where thrust-to-drag ratio is so great that the hull is runnin' only on the pad...but question JP's efficiency on our "Vs" ;) :D ... sure wouldn't hurt to try ... ya got base-line numbers w/out JP to compare once JP is in place?...

randlemanboater 03-18-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Someone in another thread recently mentioned that the "Shipshape" site had a test where they base lined a boat then put a JP on and retested.

Lets see if I can find it.

randlemanboater 03-18-2007 12:15 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Someone in another thread recently mentioned that the "Shipshape" site had a test where they base lined a boat then put a JP on and retested.

Lets see if I can find it.

Seacrets 03-18-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Why are you pulling the motor to put on a hydraulic steering cylinder? I installed a system on my 86 v20 and never loosened a bolt. You can cut the existing steering cable with a hack saw if that's your problem.. I made three cuts and it was out.

Seacrets 03-18-2007 10:18 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Why are you pulling the motor to put on a hydraulic steering cylinder? I installed a system on my 86 v20 and never loosened a bolt. You can cut the existing steering cable with a hack saw if that's your problem.. I made three cuts and it was out.

spareparts 03-19-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
my boat has a 20" transom, the transom is cut down in the middle and the new rod that goes thru the tilt tube is too long to fit with out at least loosening the engine, figured while I was at it, i would install transom stiffeners on both the upper and lower bolts, then "while I was at it, might as well put a jack plate on it". Those "while I was at its" , get me in trouble sometimes. I don't have a plate in my shed of "spareparts" or it would allready be on the boat, just wondering if it would be worth the effort to run one down.

spareparts 03-19-2007 09:54 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
my boat has a 20" transom, the transom is cut down in the middle and the new rod that goes thru the tilt tube is too long to fit with out at least loosening the engine, figured while I was at it, i would install transom stiffeners on both the upper and lower bolts, then "while I was at it, might as well put a jack plate on it". Those "while I was at its" , get me in trouble sometimes. I don't have a plate in my shed of "spareparts" or it would allready be on the boat, just wondering if it would be worth the effort to run one down.

Seacrets 03-19-2007 10:09 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I fish on a 24' Pro Line flat back boat (1976). This boat runs real skinny for a 24' and with the jack plate, we've been in some really shallow stuff. I just repowered my 86 V20 and I kick myself for not installing one. If you fish in shallow water, the next thing you'll want is a power pole.

Seacrets 03-19-2007 10:09 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I fish on a 24' Pro Line flat back boat (1976). This boat runs real skinny for a 24' and with the jack plate, we've been in some really shallow stuff. I just repowered my 86 V20 and I kick myself for not installing one. If you fish in shallow water, the next thing you'll want is a power pole.

boatnluvr 04-02-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Question for anyone running with a jackplate. I had a 4" setback installed with a 5"vertical lift, but the mechanic stated that the 25" is sitting too low and water is shooting straight up and hitting the steering bracket at the front of the motor. Does anyone using one of these have water spray in the front of the motor?

boatnluvr 04-02-2007 09:20 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Question for anyone running with a jackplate. I had a 4" setback installed with a 5"vertical lift, but the mechanic stated that the 25" is sitting too low and water is shooting straight up and hitting the steering bracket at the front of the motor. Does anyone using one of these have water spray in the front of the motor?

spareparts 04-02-2007 11:22 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
sounds like its still too low, what hole do you have it mounted in?

spareparts 04-02-2007 11:22 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
sounds like its still too low, what hole do you have it mounted in?

tsubaki 04-03-2007 08:09 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I'm considering this. http://www.cook-mfg.com/plfeatures.html I've purchased two of their products, the extreme thickness in parts is almost insane.

tsubaki 04-03-2007 08:09 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I'm considering this. http://www.cook-mfg.com/plfeatures.html I've purchased two of their products, the extreme thickness in parts is almost insane.

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
The plate is a T&H Marine Fixed Plate (4" Setback, 3" lift, plus 2.5"lift with alternate mounting holes). They mounted it in the highest holes. I am a little bummed that I had to order a CMC model 40012 which has up to a 6.5" lift and is manually adjustable. It cost me $140 plus $120 expedited shipping (yikes), to get it there by Wednesday when they are available to work on it. Unfortunately the work is being done at the boat yard on Cape Cod 75 miles from where I live, so it is sight unseen. I will be traveling there Friday and will dope slap the guy if he had mounted it wrong and cost me more cake. I hope this new one will do it.

http://cook-mfg.net/cart/index.php?m...products_id=11

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Jack Plate
 
The plate is a T&H Marine Fixed Plate (4" Setback, 3" lift, plus 2.5"lift with alternate mounting holes). They mounted it in the highest holes. I am a little bummed that I had to order a CMC model 40012 which has up to a 6.5" lift and is manually adjustable. It cost me $140 plus $120 expedited shipping (yikes), to get it there by Wednesday when they are available to work on it. Unfortunately the work is being done at the boat yard on Cape Cod 75 miles from where I live, so it is sight unseen. I will be traveling there Friday and will dope slap the guy if he had mounted it wrong and cost me more cake. I hope this new one will do it.

http://cook-mfg.net/cart/index.php?m...products_id=11

spareparts 04-03-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
take a picture of the setup with motor trimmed down, post it on here, sounds like its OK, but without seeing it....

spareparts 04-03-2007 02:11 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
take a picture of the setup with motor trimmed down, post it on here, sounds like its OK, but without seeing it....

macojoe 04-03-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I believe it is Skools that added a jack plate, then drilled a hole in the transom and brought the cable out side to the motor so it didn't hit the inside well.

There is a pic here some where.

macojoe 04-03-2007 03:09 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
I believe it is Skools that added a jack plate, then drilled a hole in the transom and brought the cable out side to the motor so it didn't hit the inside well.

There is a pic here some where.

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Yeah MJ, I saw that pic. Almost looks like water might possibly hit the bracket and shoot up. As I said, I won't be able to see it/take pics until Friday, but by then they will have installed the new plate.

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 04:26 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Yeah MJ, I saw that pic. Almost looks like water might possibly hit the bracket and shoot up. As I said, I won't be able to see it/take pics until Friday, but by then they will have installed the new plate.

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Here's that pic:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t.../finish031.jpg

boatnluvr 04-03-2007 04:28 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Here's that pic:

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t.../finish031.jpg

macojoe 04-03-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Yep thats the one!!

macojoe 04-03-2007 04:52 PM

Re: Jack Plate
 
Yep thats the one!!


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