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LS nice job! One question, Why the triangle indent in the first picture? Check your PMs. Billy Mac ;D

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Originally Posted by Mac_Attack

LS nice job! *One question, Why the triangle indent in the first picture? *Check your PMs. *Billy Mac *;D

Billy that give them a perfect view of atlantic city directly out that window AC is only about 2 mile away directly from that window also very nice bay views

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WOW, Nice job. ;D What I would give to be in there position ::)

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Can ya build me one out of the scaps. ;D

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i could sure give it one heck of a try ;D

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I said it before and will say it once again, you do great work Lumber! I wish I was blessed with your talent.

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Very nice man! Good work!

I built several house with my dad on DI over summers as a teen. I only wish we had took pictures back then. >:(

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Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z . . . . . . . . . . . . huh ? somebody say somthing ?

grumble grumble grumble. . . . . . . . . .

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dont forget the foam!

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Is the foam for flotation? ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D

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I think there referring to a foam pillow !

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TP is refering to his TV commercial.

A shameless plug for himself.

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Originally Posted by charlie_the_tuna

Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Z . . . . . . . . . . . . huh ? somebody say somthing ?

grumble grumble grumble. . . . . . . . . .

well somebodys got to post pics chuck you always forget ur camera ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Yo Lumber, speaking of pics. Hows the boat building project going. ??? ;D

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Originally Posted by msbhammer

Yo Lumber, speaking of pics. Hows the boat building project going. *??? ;D

I didnt start it yet I have to have a tree cut down that kinda takes up part of my drive way. in about a week i hope ;D

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not a plug for myself. i way too far away to do that job. just trying to save the enviorment a little. 40 percent of the energy used in this country is for heating and cooling residential homes. 40 percent of that is lost do to air infiltration (doe stats). yet, peeps spend more on thier driveways than they do insulating thier homes! i just dont know why builders are so dead set against foam. i guess cause they make a couple grand off of installing the glass batts. spf is the future. peeps soon wont have a choice. let see, eliminate mold and mildew, double the stregnth of ur home, lower insurance cost, protect ur home from floods, eliminate bugs (termites) and rodent probs, get a $2000 dollar rebate from irs, and oh yeah, cut ur electric bill in half. all for about $17 a month extra on ur mortgage payment!(2800 ft2 home)

and the builder that uses spf also gets a $2000 tax credit for every home he builds with it. the days of $80-$120 electric bills are over. and home owners can make a huge difference in our energy crisis, just by saving money. instead of complaining that no one is doing anything about it.

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interesting parrot,
Ive seen this type of insulation on tv, it sounds like it seals a home up tight as a drum?? I must be old school but i think a home needs to be energy efficient and also be able to breath . but thats just me ;)

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Hey Lumber, speaking of new homes. I've done and seen my fair share of new construction in my younger days and Never seen teh exterior walls built of a home using 2x4's. always 2x6 or 8, for more strenght and better insulation factor. Looking at a new home site and all teh exterior walls are 2x4's ?? ???
Is this something new and common on newer home's, using 2x4's ??. This is again exterior walls, not interior walls where you do use 2x4's. ???

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ur absolutely right right lumber. this stuf is applied as a liquid that expands to 30 times its original size in seconds. filling all the cracks and crevices. it molds itself into the shape of the void it is applied to. and dries almost instantly into a hard plastic with a r-factor of 6.8 per inch. creating an air tight, water proof 'building envelope'. it is self adhearing and bonds the entire building together. and by filling the area between the studs, rafters,etc... with 'rigid' foam you create a MUCH more durable building.

and a building MUST breath. but, that breathing should be controled mechanichly with a properly designed hvac (half the size vs without foam) system. and not achieved by damp, possibley polluted(dust,pollen,smog,etc..) air infiltrating the building, uncontrolled, thrue every crack and crevice that is normal in building construction. or conditioned air leaving in the same manner.

the first house i ever sprayed was my folks place. it had just been remodeled post katrina so it was already insulated with glass. we just removed the glass from the attic and applied 2.5 inches of foam to the underside of the roof deck. the house is noticeably more comfortable now. now when i enter the attic (where all the ducts are) it is constantly within 7-8 degrees of the house temp. and the electric bill is down 20%.

let me know if you want to learn more, i'll post some links for ya. i think i hijacked this thread enough,lol

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p.s.
tx for not saying that the spf will ruin the abs plumbing, that if ur roof leaks since this stuff is water proof yopu will never know it and ur decking will rot, it out gasses toxic fumes and will kill ur pets, its radioactive and causes cancer...

or best one yet, builder couple weeks ago told the client that in a hi pressure situation such as a hurricane this stuff will explode killing everyone inside,lol. he's seen it happen!

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Nice looking project Lumber.

What? Nobody's gonna comment on that sweet Bayliner in the driveway in the first pic?

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I know that foam is good chit,
now here's a question for you.

My house was built in 1820, triple thick brick walls.
No way to insulate there, but what about the roof,
would I put air baffles up before spraying, to allow for
airflow to avoid condensation?

The attic is generally 100+ degrees during summer
and during winter, I have seen icicles when the outside temps
are a constatnt 0 to 10 degrees.

One other question TP, did you get a chance tocheck the FedEx tracking number?

I have been to the post office every day this week and no package.

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parish, where you live your climate differs greatly from mine. so i can not speak from experience or training for your application. i believe that an unvented attic is a better system in any climate. and know that it is becoming very popular in canada and other extremely cold climates world wide. especialy in places where energy is not as cheap as it is hear.i would recomend you post ur question in the forum at sprayfoam.com where peeps with more experience in ur climate will help you out. and talk with spray foam contractors in ur area. just be weary of sprayers claiming that thier product is better than others. it is all basically the same stuff. the difference in performance comes from the quality of the application. and stay away from icynene. they are trained to lie and misrepresent thier product on a global scale.

with that said, here is an article on the subject from a newsletter put out by the department of energy...Spray Polyurethane Foam Insulation can be used in two common ways to insulate your attic space and protect your home from other weather and moisture related damages.

Traditional Building Science
Spray Foam Insulation in the Attic Floor (Vented Attic Spaces)
The method of use for spray foam in the attic is often dictated by the building science and design principles your architect and/or builder subscribes to. In a traditional vented attic, insulation is used on the attic floor to insulate the ceiling from the seasonal heat and/or cold. Spray foam is used where traditional fiberglass batts, or cellulose is used; between the floor joists. The rest if the attic is left un-insulated and highly vented through gable, soffit, and ridge vents in the roof structure. This type of engineered system is the most common throughout the US, but may not be the most effective.

New Technology Building Science
Spray Foam Insulation in the Attic Floor (Non-Vented Attic Spaces)
In this application, considered the most effective, by most of the SPF industry, the foam is sprayed directly to the underside of the roof between the joists, down around the rim and into the soffit areas, on the gable wall ends, and effectively sealing off and insulating the entire attic space from any air infiltration.

The traditional practice of insulating the underside of the roof in the attic has raised much debate in the building industry because "standard" roofing and design techniques call for the attic to be ventilated in order to reduce moisture problems and heat build-up in the hot summer months.

However, a vented attic situation it will become approximately 130-degrees in the summer. There's no reason for your air-conditioning and vent-ductwork to have to work in that type of severe conditions. There is also opportunity for moisture to form due to condensation on these appliances.

By applying spray foam directly to the underside of the roof deck, it now insulates the attic space from the extreme heat that once radiated thorough the hot shingles sheathing and roof. The severe temperatures no longer exist in the attic. In short, the attic now becomes a "conditioned" space of the house that is just as comfortable as any other room in the home.
Most builders and designers will tell you that this system is no good because wood needs to breathe and that the shingles on your roof will now overheat, get too hot and curl off.

We have done a great deal of research on the “breathing wood” issue and have found that most furniture manufactures actually kiln dry wood before use. They claim that if any wood is permitted to "breathe" this adds to deterioration over time. Kiln dry wood, used in all furniture, contains a small amount of moisture. If that moisture continues to dry out you will start to see cracks and splits. They take extra precautions to make sure that wood is sealed completely. Wood must be totally sealed. Properly finished and maintained furniture will not have this problem. Perhaps this is why we paint our house, and our fences, and everything else. I put up a fence a few years ago, left it to breathe, and now it is falling down because it is rotten. So much for breathing wood…

I recently met with an ELK Premium Building Products rep at a trade show last year, and they claimed their shingles have no problems whatsoever being used over an un-vented roof deck. So much for curling shingles…

A roof system insulated with spray foam reduces energy several ways. Energy loss from ducts located in the attic is essentially eliminated. The top of the building is much tighter resulting in less infiltration and exfiltration, so excess moisture isn't pulled into the attic. Infiltration through the ceiling is also reduced. In addition, the attic temperature is lower, which further reduces energy loads.

In a standard insulation system, ceiling insulation reduces the transfer of heat from the attic to the living space (in the summer). Attic temperatures can often approach 140F during the day. Most of this heat enters the attic space through a multi-step process. First, solar energy warms the shingles and sheathing. The hot sheathing then transfers heat to the rest of the attic through conduction, convection and radiant heat transfer. The 140F temperature of the underside roof surface drives the heat transfer process.

By insulating the roof surface with spray foam, the surface temperature exposed to the attic (the temperature driving the heat transfer) is reduced by as much as 40F. Both conduction and convection heat transfer are proportional to a temperature difference, so that heat transfer will be reduced proportional to a drop in surface temperature.

The benefits of including the attic in the insulated space are:

Duct leakage and heat loss/gain from ducts is much less of an issue.
Air sealing is easier in the roof that in the ceiling.
Dust and loose insulation are less likely to migrate down to the living space.
Tests show energy costs are lower when the attic is sealed.
Further information is available from ASHRAE (8700-527-4723) in a publication titled "Vented and Sealed Attics in Hot Climates"

did you get all that,lol?

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Thanks for the research and I will definately check that website.
By the way, my job requires that I read technical information
on a regular basis.
If you ever can't sleep at night, just pick up a copy of
the SAE standards for steel or for paint testing.

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my prob is more tryin to stay awake. i got 3 cpu's in front of me.workin on the website,yawn. workin up proposals and fine tuning contracts,eye lids gettin heavy. and here just to stay sain, new post in the good mornin thread plz! just 6 moreyears!

ck ur pm's bud

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looking good there Lumber, lotsa pumpjacks you got going on there. I like the siding.

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Looks great!!

If I get one of them can I park my truck and boat under the house??

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mj you and park your truck and boat under there ;D ;D

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Looks sharp Lumber! ;)