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Bygracealone 09-26-2006 02:47 PM

Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Hey guys,

I'm to the point where I've removed the old hydraulic steering and have run the new steering cable through the gunwale. *

As I was getting ready to install the bezel and the helm, I noticed that the existing hole from the previous helm is too big for the new one. *I have to make the hole smaller. *What should I do? *I know one option would be to glass in the hole with plywood, but would that be smart? *All of the stress from the new helm would be placed right within the patch area. *Should I consider glassing along with a piece of aluminum going across that whole face of that section where the steering wheel goes? *

Here's the hole as it exists now:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...g/100_1303.jpg


brianct12 09-26-2006 08:02 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Grace, Hmmm - thats a tough one. An easy solution hasnt come to me yet - maybe someone else will figure it out. The way I see it - you would have to pull the whole dash console off. I would make a round disc of wood that is a tight fit to the existing hole. Then I would securely attach that to a backer plate. Then, the backer plate could be securely fastened to the inside of the dash console. Lag screws, epoxy and glass, etc for the secure fastening. Good luck.

msbhammer 09-26-2006 09:08 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Can you just use a thick piece of starboard ???

Franco 09-26-2006 09:39 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Hammer has the answer

Bygracealone 09-26-2006 10:33 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Thanks guys!!! Starboard it is--easy enough...

Airslot 09-26-2006 10:45 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
BGO, here's another possibily. Teleflex has excellent customer sercive. I'd bet if you call and ask that they have an adapter of some sort that will make your installation a bolt in. Probably even cheaper than Starboard and might look pretty slick.

Airslot

TheTinMan 09-26-2006 10:56 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
If Teleflex doesn't come through, how about a nice piece of round teak bigger than the hole???


something like this;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...sMako23006.jpg

macojoe 09-26-2006 11:32 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
3/4 Starboard will be more then anough and will last 10 lifetimes!!

Skools Out 09-26-2006 11:55 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
bygrace i've got what you need will get pics tomorrow. it's a steering adapter for your app. send a pic of the steering to my email of your steering pump you took out and a pic of the new steering box i'll see which adapter you need have a box of new ones.

Bygracealone 09-27-2006 12:47 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Thanks Skools!!! I'll send the pics tomorrow.

brianct12 09-27-2006 05:15 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Hey Tin, Where did that pic come from ? Man - that is a thing of beauty !!! Wow !

TheTinMan 09-27-2006 09:35 AM

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That's a guy over at classic mako, goes by the name Annie II. It's a 1973 23' Mako (Annie III) he just finished. The guy is a real craftsman. Last year he finished Annie II, another beauty.

Here you go:
http://classicmako.com/forum/topic.a...mp;whichpage=1

msbhammer 09-27-2006 09:50 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
This might work for ya. Cheap Price to.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/3-4-x...QQcmdZViewItem

macojoe 09-27-2006 10:02 AM

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If you like the wood and the up keep, that is a great piece Tin!!
I hate the work of wood and have removed all!

But I am jelious of the guys that have it cause it looks so good!

Stinky_Hooker 09-27-2006 11:43 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
That is one fine console!


Of course my wife tells me that all the time. ::)

Skools Out 09-28-2006 12:41 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
what size does the hole measure you have? i have alot of new brackets but need to know the current hole size i could weld you some longer ears on a kit so you wouldn't need to do any rigging.

Skools Out 09-28-2006 12:45 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
also tell me the old mounting hole distances for the 4 holes i'll build you a mount bracket.

Bygracealone 09-28-2006 03:37 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Here you go Skools:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...einconsole.jpg

The measurement from hole to hole is not from center to center of the holes, but from the inner edge to the inner edge of the holes. *Let me know if you'd like me to remeasure from center to center.

Also, a correction: the plywood is 5/8" not 3/4"...

Thanks buddy!

msbhammer 09-29-2006 12:49 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Yo Skool,
While your making stuff for Bygrace, make me a hard top brother. ;D ;D ;D

Skools Out 09-29-2006 12:56 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
ok lol buy me a new tig welder and i'll build anything you wish lol

phester 09-29-2006 01:17 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
skools ,gotta welding question for ya..my buddy has got a 92[?] 115 yammi, great motor except for a crack that has developed on the lower unit. Right where the front of the prop meets the lower unit, at about a 10:00 position, a crack started last year and now has moved at least an inch and1/4 foward. I think it's passing a little exhaust thru the crack because last time out on it I said it sounded different. Can something like that be welded or marine texed or JB 'd ?? Whattaya think???

Skools Out 09-29-2006 01:25 AM

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you can stop the crack from moving anymore by drilling a hole in the end of the crack so it can't run any more. doesn't need to be very big just wider than the crack. then just fill with JB Weld you should be fine. That's an Old trick to do on circuit boards when they crack and it works well on metal too.

phester 09-29-2006 01:42 AM

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I'll pass that info along to him, thanks skools

Skools Out 10-03-2006 01:28 AM

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Start to build part that arrived today

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-121S.jpg

After cutting out 5/8 in, welding flanges, and getting ready to be mounted under the dash for thru bolting

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...er/MVC-123.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...er/MVC-124.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-125S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-126S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-127S.jpg

testing to make sure all fits.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-122S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-116S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-117S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-118S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-119S.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-120S.jpg

Bygracealone 10-03-2006 01:37 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Skools,

I can't believe how quickly you did that! You just received the part today for crying out loud :o

Looks great bud.

Skools Out 10-03-2006 01:42 AM

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i painted with galv coat then coated with black laqr paint. Currently drying and will get needed bolts tomorrow and send back with bolts 2 plastic housings and new stainless steering arm.

macojoe 10-03-2006 02:43 AM

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Great Job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reelapeelin 10-03-2006 09:21 AM

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WOW, Skools!!...great job!!... 8) ...

Skools Out 10-03-2006 11:52 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Thanks Guys just keep the fingers crossed that it works.

macojoe 10-04-2006 12:25 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Yea he might get in the water turn the wheel and the weld break!! Then he have no steering and the cops pull!! LOL

I am sure it will be fine and out last the boat!

Skools Out 10-06-2006 12:55 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
ok here's what all i'm sending back

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-141S.jpg

Here's your original trim cover with long stainless screws for prethreaded holes in bracket

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-134S.jpg

New made steering bracket

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-135S.jpg

New Stainless Stering arm you needed with all nuts and washers plus tention spring

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-136S.jpg

New Factory Steering bracket in case new one doesn't fit and new bigger steering trim cover
PS i'd use this trim cover it will cover better.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-137S.jpg

New Stainless Thru bolt parts 4 Stainless 5/16 Carriage bolts, 4 stainless washers, and 4 stainless nylon locking nuts.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-138S.jpg

Notice i polished the bolt heads so they look better on the top of your dash.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/MVC-140S.jpg


Just remember the new bracket mounts under the dash and then thru bolt from top with these new stainless bolts and trim cover will bolt threw the old steering hole. I hope this works and is that all you needed? Going out tomorrow via Priorty Mail.

Skools Out 10-06-2006 01:13 AM

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oh yeah i looked in the box of steering nuts and found a box full of the ones for the steering box you sent. Thanks Again Todd

chumbucket 10-06-2006 01:38 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
bygrace; how awesome is this guy? ;D 8) 8) 8)

You're a good man Skools. 8)

Bygracealone 10-06-2006 02:42 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
You ain't kidding CB!

Skools has been a great friend. In fact, he's gone above and beyond anything I deserve. I've thanked him offlist, but I think it's worth saying publicly as well. Thanks buddy!!!


Skools Out 10-06-2006 01:39 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Anytime Brother *8)

Now I only hope it fits and works. Hard to build stuff for projects 500 miles away lol. I built 2 steel bridges for my garden railroad at the beach here on just some measurements. They both fit perfect hope this does too. The bridges wouldn't have been to bad except they *both were 4 ft and 7.5 ft curved 1 on one end and 1 in the center. They are 200 miles away.

Skools Out 10-11-2006 01:12 AM

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hey BGA did it fit?

Skools Out 10-11-2006 01:15 AM

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Oh yeah and Hey back by popular demand the cat's Back.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a46...r/C2767744.gif

Skools Out 01-31-2007 03:04 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Hey ByGrace did you get it installed Did it fit??? We want pics ???

reelapeelin 01-31-2007 04:31 PM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Steve popped up on the Links section the other day, but haven't seen him since... :) ...

msbhammer 02-01-2007 01:17 AM

Re: Installing NFB Steering Helm
 
Seen him on the site as well, but didnt post anything.


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