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Torque Steer
Hey Lord Skool or anyone else who has experienced torque steer with mechanical steering, hard self turning to right under power, probably aggravated from motor being on end of a bracket is there a way to get rid of it without buying no feedback steering/hydraulic etc. I know about turning the fin on bottom of cavitation plate but Fillet 1 did that and no or little effect
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measure the motor to the sides of the boat make sure it's really in the center. If so measure from the bottom of the boat to the motor each side make sure it's mounted straight that way too.
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Ok Skools I will do that, if it is centered what next
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Willy, my first question is, when F1 adjusted the fin, WHERE did he leave it?...is it back in original position or where he adjusted it to?...bracket or not, it's gonna play into the torque problem...Provided your motor is centered, as Skools questioned, don't fight gettin' another steering cable too much...the NFS will improve your boat's handling like you won't believe!!...I wrestled w/the cable that was on mine for years, thinkin' that's just the way it is...switched up to NFS and WOW...had it now for 3 yrs and GREAT... ;)...
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Ok Rap thats probably what I'll do, he told me he had adjusted it and it made no diffrence, it is a steady pull to the right, if you let go of the wheel it will immediatly turn the boat. I read in west marines catalog that it is called torque steer and is common on straight mechanical steering cables. But I was reading the posts about it on the hull truth and several guys had switched to the nfs steering and still had it, it reduced it but still could not let go of the wheel in confidence. I am glad you had no problem can't afford doing a hydraulic now, very expensive. I wonder why there is such a mixed opinion on the nfs ???
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Hydraulic steering. *Problem solved. You might be able to get a good deal on ebay.
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what hp motor are you running?
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Hey Lord
Skools its a 1999 115 Johnson on a bracket |
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oh good buy the hydraulic system off ebay for the 150 HP and less boats. I just got one they are great new in the box for $250 complete.
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tell me more about it skools all i was able to find were $700 and up :o what kind of quality is it
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I checked on ebay, it appears you can buy a kit for about $500 NFB is that the one your talking about Skools
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i looked and there aren't any on there right now. The guy don't have any listed currently. i'll keep my eyes open for you.
cheapest i found was this set. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ultra...QQcmdZViewItem |
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Is that the one you got, the one you got is it decent quality? and how hard are they to install Skools I never did it
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yeah same kind i got they are easy to install. *good thing never fear a stuck, stretched, rusted, or broken cable again.
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Hey Willy Have you considered a dual cable system? that way you only need 1 new cable a dual cable helm and the dual outboard connector.
saves money. here's one of the helms on Ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TELEF...81311213QQrdZ1 http://i17.ebayimg.com/03/i/05/1e/05/fa_1.JPG?set_id=7 |
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Hey Lord Skools, I have not considered it because I don't know what the H@ll it is ;D what is the advantage or disadvantage of a unit like that compared to the less expensive version hydraulic steering, would it get rid of the torque steer ???
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My v20 has it on it and worked really good. it makes your steering tight so it doesn't torque nearly as much if any at all.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Telef...spagenameZWDVW
this helm might work too check there site to find out. |
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This is the same just rack version.
http://a1460.g.akamai.net/f/1460/133...012409hz01.jpg NFB™ Pro Rack Teleflex NFB Dual Cable Steering Kit Up to V-6 (55 mph and more) Here's a serious NFB™ rack-and-pinion steering system that handles easily and stays on track. The Pro Rack is serious, 4.0 turn steering for pro anglers or power boaters. No excessive steering load even with high-speed, high performance hulls and engines. 115 hp and higher and top speeds higher than 50 mph. Available: NFB™ Pro Rack Dual Cable - 12-16 feet. |
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Morse Steering Helms *(Has 1 Contact Point)
http://www.boatingsolutions.com/Ufle...morsegears.jpg Teleflex Steering Helms * (Has 1 Contact Point) http://www.boatingsolutions.com/Ufle...tflexgears.jpg UltraFlex Steering Helms *(Has 6 Contact Points) http://www.boatingsolutions.com/Ufle...ltflxgears.jpg Why the Ultraflex System vs other name brands? The Ultraflex Rotech and Accura Steering systems use a Planetary Gear Helm with six contact point vs. one contact point by other named brands Increased longevity Increased efficiency Less feedback than conventional helms Both the Teleflex® and Morse® helms rely on one contact point vs. six by the Ultraflex® steering helm. Other features offered with a Ultraflex® Rotech or Accura Steering System: You could buy one of these boxes and not even change your cables or any thing this would fix your problem. Specs: Up to 50 mph or 40 KW (55cv) Rotech I single cable system Accura I no feedback single cable system Over 50 mph Rotech II dual cable system Accura II no feedback dual cable system See link for more info. Best route with least work. http://www.boatingsolutions.com/how-...stemselect.htm |
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So I would order just the helm, cut hole if needed larger, and use my existing steering cable. Sounds to easy Skools whats the catch. Does having all those contact points remove torque steer ???
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check which helm you have and call them to make sure you can use your cable but if so this would be easiest fix.
here's one of those boxes that will fit Teleflex cables http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Brand...QQcmdZViewItem |
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