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randlemanboater 03-28-2007 11:51 PM

Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Anyone else have this problem? My steering rubs on the transom. I had to grind down the transom cap so that I didn't have to turn left all of the time. (Sure thats fine on Sunday, but.....)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...101_0062-4.jpg

randlemanboater 03-28-2007 11:51 PM

Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Anyone else have this problem? My steering rubs on the transom. I had to grind down the transom cap so that I didn't have to turn left all of the time. (Sure thats fine on Sunday, but.....)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...101_0062-4.jpg

randlemanboater 03-28-2007 11:51 PM

Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Anyone else have this problem? My steering rubs on the transom. I had to grind down the transom cap so that I didn't have to turn left all of the time. (Sure thats fine on Sunday, but.....)

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...101_0062-4.jpg

msbhammer 03-29-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Whats up with that ??, never seen that problem before ? ??? ??? ??? ???

msbhammer 03-29-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Whats up with that ??, never seen that problem before ? ??? ??? ??? ???

msbhammer 03-29-2007 12:19 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Whats up with that ??, never seen that problem before ? ??? ??? ??? ???

macojoe 03-29-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
I have never seen that either? Is there anything between the motor & hull?? Is the motor bolted tight to the boat?
Thats weird

macojoe 03-29-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
I have never seen that either? Is there anything between the motor & hull?? Is the motor bolted tight to the boat?
Thats weird

macojoe 03-29-2007 01:22 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
I have never seen that either? Is there anything between the motor & hull?? Is the motor bolted tight to the boat?
Thats weird

msbhammer 03-29-2007 01:58 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
SKOOL has pulled dozens of motors, he must know what the deal is with this.

macojoe 03-29-2007 02:15 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Looking at the pic again there really looks like the motor is sittin to far back, like there is something between the motor and hull??

msbhammer 03-29-2007 02:31 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Randleman, you dont have the back side of the motor bracket shimmed out with washers or something like that do ya ?.
Or one hell of a thick transom cap ?? ???

bigshrimpin 03-29-2007 03:12 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
transom wedges? That's all I can think of

V20Twin 03-29-2007 03:29 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
My 1975V was like that when I had a single motor I don’t think it rubbed as bad at that one does

msbhammer 03-29-2007 05:28 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Yank the motor and go bracket. ;) ;D

Airslot 03-29-2007 09:14 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Looks like the motor isn't flush against the transom, but thats already been said. I think what I would do assuming it is against the transom, is grind that notch out a little deeper for clearence, seal it up with either epoxy or thicked gel-coat, and be done with it.

randlemanboater 03-29-2007 10:08 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
The transom cap is keeping the motor from pulling all the way up to the transom, but it lacks less than 1/8" being there.

I guess the thing to do is pull the motor back off and grind off the back of the cap.

There was a gouge already there from the original 20" motor, and you can see the gouge from the 25" motor on the top of the cap.

I was wondering when something was going to give me trouble, everything has been going too smooth.

C YENSEN 03-29-2007 10:38 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
i was about to ask if the Merc was doing the same thing or if it was just the johnson?

Stinky_Hooker 03-29-2007 11:51 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Thas odd.....Ive seen em tight but dang, thats rediculous. :-/

Get you a jack plate!! ;D

randlemanboater 03-29-2007 12:42 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stinky_Hooker
Thas odd.....Ive seen em tight but dang, thats rediculous. :-/

Get you a jack plate!! ;D

I was thinking about one anyway, but didn't want to deal with changing the steering cable right away.

I might as well put on a jackplate cause I am going to have to take the motor off again anyway.

reelapeelin 03-29-2007 01:11 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Mine scrapes a little, but not like that...J-Plate'll cure it, just hope steer-cable long enough ... :D ...

parishht 03-29-2007 02:23 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
As you can see in this picture,
my Evinrude would scrape, but the 78 has a large cut out.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...100_0418-1.jpg

Yes it is dirty, I go for function not beauty.

Here is a shot from the rear and you can see the
large step cut.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...shht/boat2.jpg

I say, grind it away and seal it up.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1..._Donuts-01.jpg

randlemanboater 03-29-2007 04:58 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by reelapeelin
Mine scrapes a little, but not like that...J-Plate'll cure it, just hope steer-cable long enough ... :D ...


Steering cable is not long enough, thats why there is not a jackplate on it now.

Seacrets 03-29-2007 06:22 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Install hydraulic steering and be done with your problems. A jackplate is primarily used for shallow water running and they cost much more than hydraulic steering if you select a hydraulic model. Just think, no more cables to freeze up and no steering torque either.
You don't have to remove the motor to remove the old cable. You can cut it with a hack saw. They're really easy to install too. Got mine on ebay from a guy in N.C. It was $465.00. All new stuff too. He has them on ebay all the time. I think his name was Cherry. Did you use any steering components from your Merc? Maybe you can fix your problem with another type of steering arm. Good luck.

Skools Out 03-29-2007 06:28 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
i wouldn't install a jackplate but is your transom soft? can you stand on the cavatation plate and bounce the motor to see if the transom moves in and out it looks like the transom is going and has started to bow out in the center. i've seen that on bad transom boats.

Skools Out 03-29-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
where is the tilt tube on that 140? those motors may be different from the older motors. it may just be the motors new design. just rub some 5200 in the groove you ground and let it go if the transom is solid.

randlemanboater 03-29-2007 09:21 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
I did the bounce test, solid as a rock. I think the whole problem is the transom cap being so wide.

The 140 fit fine on the Starcraft with no problem, and it was 10 years older than this boat.

On an '84 V, is the transom cap covering bare wood or is it glassed over?

randlemanboater 03-29-2007 09:22 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seacrets
Install hydraulic steering and be done with your problems. *A jackplate is primarily used for shallow water running and they cost *much more than hydraulic steering if you select a hydraulic model. *Just think, no more cables to freeze up and no steering torque either.
You don't have to remove the motor to remove the old cable. *You can cut it with a hack saw. *They're really easy to install too. *Got mine on ebay from a guy in N.C. *It was $465.00. *All new stuff too. *He has them on ebay all the time. *I think his name was Cherry. *Did you use any steering components from your Merc? *Maybe you can fix your problem with another type of steering arm. *Good luck.

I looked at a hydraulic setup on a boat at the dealer the other day and I think it would rub on both sides, but I may be wrong.

macojoe 03-29-2007 10:44 PM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Skools or Stinky I forgot which, took the transome cap off and glassed and painted it over.

That might be the perfect thing to do??

Skools Out 03-30-2007 12:08 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
;D both of us did ;D

randlemanboater 03-30-2007 12:14 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Skools Out
;D both of us did *;D

Looks like 3's company, well, as soon as I get mine done.

tsubaki 04-02-2007 08:56 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Look at the different types; Front, side and backsplash types. http://ww2.seastarsteering.com/OUTBOARD/oboard.htm

tsubaki 04-02-2007 09:01 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Also check to see if the transom has been rebuilt. If it's thicker than 2 1/8'', excluding the cap.

randlemanboater 04-06-2007 09:39 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Yesterday I took the motor back off, ground down the back of the transom cap, and bolted the motor back on. Everything works like it should now.

The cap looks like it has expanded and warped over the years, it was keeping the motor from fitting flush on the transom at the top.

I sealed up everything w/ 5200 and am happy with the results. Next winter I might pull the motor again and completely remove the transom cap and glass the transom top, but for now, I am ready to fish.........well, almost anyway.

macojoe 04-06-2007 11:14 AM

Re: Steering Clearance (Clarence)
 
Good work!! Just make sure all is sealed good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The last hing you want is to get water under that cap! Wellcraft did not seal it!


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