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StBalor 08-12-2007 12:13 AM

New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Ok guys, had my v20 out in the water today. It was a little choppy but not to bad. I notice this boat sits very low in the water. when in reverse backing out of ramp area water would come over the transom and in the boat. Also while fishing i noticed water coming over the transom a bit, not as bad as when in reverse but still happening. was also noticing water level to top of the lowest part of transom was like only 3" amybe 4".
Are these things normal?
Being new to boating i just don't know.

msbhammer 08-12-2007 12:18 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
The water was choppy out today. The tides are high and running fast with a full moon upon us.
Did you stick in the Hull nut on the transom to stop any water from coming in. ???
I get maybe an inch of water in my transom splash well.
Has your transom been cut down at all ????
Ive heard of guys talking about installing a piece of starboard in the splash well on either side of the motor
to cut down on water from getting in on choppy days.

Get that camera and post some picks, and I'm sure we can fix the problem.

msbhammer 08-12-2007 12:22 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Getting water in the splashwell is ok. It then drains back out, through the transom. Your transom should have two round scuppers on the outside. It should have a rubber flap or a ball. It lets water out, but doesnt let water in.
Was your bilge pump running at all ??

StBalor 08-12-2007 12:26 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msbhammer
The water was choppy out today. The tides are high and running fast with a full moon upon us.

Did you stick in the Hull nut on the transom to stop any water from coming in. ???

YES

Quote:

I get maybe an inch of water in my transom splash well.
I had more than an inch

Quote:

Has your transom been cut down at all ????
Not that i know of, how do i tell?

Quote:

Ive heard of guys talking about installing a piece of starboard in the splash well on either side of the motor
to cut down on water from getting in on choppy days.

Get that camera and post some picks, and I'm sure we can fix the problem.

StBalor 08-12-2007 12:28 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by msbhammer
Getting water in the splashwell is ok. It then drains back out, through the transom. Your transom should have two round scuppers on the outside. It should have a rubber flap or a ball. It lets water out, but doesnt let water in.

I'll Check in the morning

Quote:

Was your bilge pump running at all ??
Yes

msbhammer 08-12-2007 12:43 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
What year is your V. Your bilge should be running until you get 2" of water in the hull and it trips the float switch. Check your bow eye out. If not sealed, water will come in and run into the bilge area.

Get that Camera. Or a cell phone camera. We need pics. ;) ;D ;D 8)

randlemanboater2 08-12-2007 10:51 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Did you put the plug in? ::)


If you did, then you are taking on water somewhere, I can put my V in and leave it for several days without any water getting into the bilge.

Water in the splashwell is normal, but only comming through the drains holes, not over the top. (Unless you are stern to 3 plus footers).


chesapeake_dreamin 08-12-2007 11:09 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
the guys got a good point, we need pics. ;D

parishht 08-12-2007 11:39 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Or at least give us the year!!!

On mine water comes over the transom all the time,
but like HAMMER says, it then drains out of the splashwell
through the through transom scuppers.
My scuppers from the deck to the splashwell are broken, so I put corks in teh holes that would allow water
to go to the deck.

I usually have around 1 to 6 inches of water in my splashwell,
even on calm days.

macojoe 08-12-2007 12:37 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Yes be affraid, very affraid!! ;D

I never get a drop over the transom!! I take all my water head on over the bow! :o


THEFERMANATOR 08-12-2007 02:15 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
He's got a 75 according to previous posts, so he probably has a 20" transom with a V-6 hangin off of it.

msbhammer 08-12-2007 06:08 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
You get a camera yet. ;D

macojoe 08-12-2007 06:50 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
75 w/a 20" ttransom :o throw it away and buy my boat you never get water again!! ;)

StBalor 08-13-2007 12:52 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THEFERMANATOR
He's got a 75 according to previous posts, so he probably has a 20" transom with a V-6 hangin off of it.


Correct.

msbhammer 08-13-2007 01:24 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
No, buy my V. It went from a 20" to a 25" transom.
It all new too. :P

charlie_the_tuna 08-13-2007 01:30 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
the hell with those guys.
buy my boat, without the hardtop of course.

Skools_Dual 08-13-2007 02:08 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by charlie_the_tuna
the hell with those guys.
buy my boat, without the hardtop of course.

NO ONE WANTS YOUR STUPID HARD TOP

msbhammer 08-13-2007 03:32 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
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tsubaki 08-13-2007 08:54 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
(quote Theferm) He's got a 75 according to previous posts, so he probably has a 20" transom with a V-6 hangin off of it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by StBalor


Correct.


I'll measure mine today and see how far in the water it sat.
Got the same boat, hp motor, etc.

tsubaki 08-13-2007 11:43 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Got roughly 6'' from the top of the transom to the waterline.
I've got 2-20gal saddle tanks, 2 class 24 batteries and the motor is setback 5" by the jackplate, adding a little more weight to the rear.
Give me some time, trying to locate my pictures program, it's disappeared from the computer.

tsubaki 08-13-2007 12:09 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
See the waterline mark.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture201.jpg
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture202.jpg

Sean 08-13-2007 12:11 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Dont listen to them, buy my boat, so I can buy MJ's ;D

Shawsee 08-13-2007 12:30 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
StBalor,

I have a 76 and I also noticed the first time I had her out she sat rather low in the water. After I got her back home and cleaned up I started to look at the way I had the boat stored outside, which was completely level. So I then thought, I wonder if there is water trapped in the bottom of the hull beneath the floor where it could not drain out of the transom drain hole. So I then proceeded to raise the front tongue of the trailer as far up as possible. I ended up using two 4x4 pieces stacked together under the tongue jack. This raised the bow of the boat way up in the air, while the jack was raised up as far as possible. It look scary at first raised up that high but mine never had a problem at all being kept this way. Anyway, the water began pouring out the transom drain hole like there was a flood! There must have been 55 gallons of water trapped in there, just on the bottom of the hull. ::) So now when I park her, I always leave the bow up as high as possible, and now when I launch her, she sits up nice and high in the water.

I am by no means saying this is what will cure your problem, because I am rather new to this boating stuff as well. All I know this has worked for me because I keep my boat outside right now, and rainwater will add up after a while. Good luck and post pictures as the guys suggested.

parishht 08-13-2007 12:57 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
In our older year V's, it is not unusual to get water in the splashwell.

Just remember to keep it from getting into the bilge area.

StBalor, I do the same with mine, keeping the bow as high as possible,
I have a system of 4 x 4's that I use to support the trailer.
It looks scary, but I keep mine at my vinyl condo
all winter, winds come off the ocean at a pretty good clip
and have not blown her over, yet.

parishht 08-13-2007 01:05 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
In this picture, you can see where I put the 4 x 4,
right under the joint of teh sidemembers and the tongue:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...shht/boat1.jpg

I also forgot about this picture,
it is not my V, but the arrow points to teh splaswell
and the red dotted lines show how my deck drain hoses
run.
That is why I put corks in the splashwell outlets,
but not in the outlets that drain the seawater out of the splashwell.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g1...hht/drains.jpg

Blue_Runner 08-13-2007 01:28 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
I agree with Shawsee - check to make sure you don't have a bunch of water in there by doing as he suggested. Also, I had a 73 model and it had 2 plugs in the back. One underneath the hull and another in the normal position. Its hard enough to remember one plug let alone 2!

The one underneath was one of those brass garboard styles and the other was the rubber kind that you screw and lock shut. Check that brass one really good to make sure it is sealed...you could be taking water around it (the female part that is screwed to the hull). Other than that, water 4" from top sounds pretty normal, while 3" does sound a little low. Did you have a bunch of friends sitting in the back on a bench seat?

What hp and yr model motor are you running? Pictures or more info would certainly help...if you don't know how to post them just ask and we'll help out.

BLue

msbhammer 08-13-2007 04:42 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
I would agree that water is trapped in the hull. The two drain holes that are on either side of teh stringers, that drain water into the bilge area is way to high, trapping in water. I noticed this on my project V. I'm filler in the drain hole with cloth and will lower the drain holes so water drains out.

StBalor 08-13-2007 06:24 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
[quote author=tsubaki link=board=General;num=1186884786;start=15#20 date=08/13/07 at 10:09:59]See the waterline mark.
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture201.jpg
quote]

Could you post a picture of your splash well from above looking down on it? I want to compare it to mine. I took the boat out again yesterday. Water still a bit choppy. Water constantly coming over the transom into the splash well. Splash well fills up and overflows into the bilge area.

msbhammer 08-13-2007 06:49 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
When the water overflows, how is it getting into the splash well. Is it coming in through the battery box opening ??? ??? ???

Blue_Runner 08-13-2007 07:16 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Sounds like it is coming directly over the notch in the transom where the motor is mounted.

But if that's the case it seems it would not overflow the splashwell because it would just run back out the notch first. ???

It kinda sounds like you are about to sink dude! Be careful! :o

You need to give us some numbers so we can help you out....motor model, horsepower, and yr, max speed and tach would help determine if your hull is too heavy.

Maybe your motor is just too heavy. Who knows? We don't have enough info to diagnose your problem.

Blue


StBalor 08-13-2007 08:06 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Yes, water is coming over where motor is mounted and into the splash well. towards the front side of splash well i have a hole in my splash well about 4" in Diameter. (Looks like something was mounted there before, has 4 smaller holes around the 4" diameter hole.) Water over flows through that hole and into bilge area.
i don't know, don't have a camera at the moment, so i'll quit posting till i can post some pics.

tsubaki 08-13-2007 08:20 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Chances are that was the old wire and cable boot location. If there ain't anything there now, seal it or cover it up.

Shawsee 08-13-2007 10:04 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Here is some pics of how I have the trailer tongue up on two 4x4 pieces. Very similar to the way Parishht has his.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1945.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1950.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1946.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1947.jpg

Here you will see a long piece of old jean material(100% cotton) that acts like a "wick" to remove water trapped in the bilge area. I got this idea right here on the V site. I cannot remember who suggested this great idea, but it sure does the trick!

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1949.jpg

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x...e/100_1948.jpg


Sean 08-13-2007 10:10 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Shawsee, Your set up looks just like mine. My drive is on a slope, so when I back in I need to jack her way up just to get the boat level, then another foot, to drain. ITs apretty scarry site :o
Thanks for the "wick" idea. I usally shy away from holes with strings hanging out of them, but this I will defently be trying ;) ;D

Shawsee 08-13-2007 11:56 PM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean
Shawsee, Your set up looks just like mine. My drive is on a slope, so when I back in I need to jack her way up just to get the boat level, then another foot, to drain. ITs apretty scarry site :o
Thanks for the "wick" idea. I usally shy away from holes with strings hanging out of them, but this I will defently be trying *;) ;D

Sean,

The first time I raised the boat up that high my wife was outside with me. She kept asking me," what the heck are you doing?" I told her trying to get the water out! She then ran like hell into the house yelling,"you are crazy jacking the boat up that high and you are going to hurt yourself. LMAO *::) but man oh man, whenever the boat reached "the point of no return" the water was pouring out of the drain hole! It ran like that for at least 10 minutes too. *:o *The next time I launched her at Point Judith, she was sitting so much higher in the water it was like I had a new boat. I don't know why they designed the boat like that with the drain hole 3" higher then the lowest point in the bottom of the hull. *???
The "wick" idea works great too and who ever thought of that one was brilliant. I couldn't believe that a small strip of cotton material could work so good for wicking water out.

msbhammer 08-14-2007 03:36 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Any chance of you being in Delaware. I'll take a look at it or maybe another member is close to ya.

reelapeelin 08-14-2007 05:22 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?Don't stop
 
Don't stop postin' ...better to keep postin' w/no pix...what motor you got?...you need to find a way to seal off the holes in your splashwell...it's made to take on water, then drain back out...do you have a working bilge-pump?...after on the water, how many inches in your bilge area?...

tsubaki 08-14-2007 08:02 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Any help?
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...Picture036.jpg

msbhammer 08-14-2007 08:24 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
Wow, thats a narrow splashwell. But water still shouldnt be coming in through the boot hole.

tsubaki 08-14-2007 08:41 AM

Re: New to boating, Should i be worried?
 
I'm willing to bet he's got an old boot hole dead center in the bottom of the backsplash.


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