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bgreene 04-11-2022 07:23 PM

The age of political lying
 
As some may have noticed - I have a personal distaste for lying and slandering people .

And, while I was initially interested in what Trump might bring to politics, as I FACT CHECKED, I realized he was a great showman and lied …..A LOT .

Here’s 15 of Trumps LIES but of course this list is now old - he’s lied a lot more since this list

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/polit...ies/index.html

scook 04-12-2022 12:27 AM

Has anyone noticed that? It’s not the impression I have from my observation.

Fact checking by the fox who’s guarding the henhouse leaves some credibility to be desired.

And that list is typical CNN. I wonder if they’ll do a list of Biden’s lies, or Pelosi’s or Schiff’s - they could narrow it down a little by only doing the incessantly repeated lies.

bgreene 04-12-2022 04:03 AM

This list of trump LIES includes absolute facts.


https://www.citizensforethics.org/re...al-misconduct/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...es-trump-lies/

scook 04-12-2022 07:11 AM

Once again, mostly unresponsive. I recall one of your initial big, egregious Trump lies was that he said he wouldn’t have much time to play golf as president, but then he found he could get a lot of work done on the golf course. The way you make that into ANY kind of lie is by being intellectually dishonest.

bgreene 04-12-2022 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 248707)
Once again, mostly unresponsive. I recall one of your initial big, egregious Trump lies was that he said he wouldn’t have much time to play golf as president, but then he found he could get a lot of work done on the golf course. The way you make that into ANY kind of lie is by being intellectually dishonest.

Personal insults again and again from you.

FACT was: Trump did say “ Obama plays too much golf and as President I ( trump) wouldn’t have time for golf.
Then Trump actually played more golf days than Obama .

This is just a fact - you want to go with the excuse that he worked on the golf course that’s your right .

scook 04-15-2022 08:25 AM

The FACT that he was an experienced executive and was able to play more golf than he had anticipated only makes the statement a lie in the mind of an intellectually dishonest person, or one blinded by extreme bias. It is laughably foolish.

bgreene 04-16-2022 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 248879)
The FACT that he was an experienced executive and was able to play more golf than he had anticipated only makes the statement a lie in the mind of an intellectually dishonest person, or one blinded by extreme bias. It is laughably foolish.

Trump publicly insulted President Obama by saying “ Obama plays too much golf and if President I wouldn’t have time to play golf - I’d be too busy working for the American people”

1. Trumps a hypocrite because he played more time as President playing golf than Obama

2. I don’t buy trumps excuse that he worked on the golf course . Big excuse .
You think he was having meetings with others, signing papers, consulting with our experts on various subjects while trying to concentrate on his golf game ? Nonsensical excuse .

3. He owes Obama - and all Americans an apology

Destroyer 04-16-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 248915)
Trump publicly insulted President Obama by saying “ Obama plays too much golf and if President I wouldn’t have time to play golf - I’d be too busy working for the American people”

1. Trumps a hypocrite because he played more time as President playing golf than Obama

2. I don’t buy trumps excuse that he worked on the golf course . Big excuse .
You think he was having meetings with others, signing papers, consulting with our experts on various subjects while trying to concentrate on his golf game ? Nonsensical excuse .

3. He owes Obama - and all Americans an apology

You should tell him that. Tell him that you know better than him how he should have spent his time while president. You know, that might be a good idea. Maybe he'll take it under advisement in 2024 when he's elected President again.

bgreene 04-18-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 248924)
You should tell him that. Tell him that you know better than him how he should have spent his time while president. You know, that might be a good idea. Maybe he'll take it under advisement in 2024 when he's elected President again.

I’ve already written to President Trump expressing my feeling as an American in a civil and courteous manner.
Civil and courteous manner - unlike you on this site .

scook 04-19-2022 12:55 AM

Actually, unlike you in most of your posts. We’re you courteous when you informed him that he’s a cheating, lying, conman traitor to our country?

bgreene 04-19-2022 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 248971)
Actually, unlike you in most of your posts. We’re you courteous when you informed him that he’s a cheating, lying, conman traitor to our country?

I elected not to advise trump of what he already knows in that particular regard.
He is all that and more.

Destroyer 04-19-2022 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 248973)
I elected not to advise trump of what he already knows in that particular regard.
He is all that and more.

Your opinion of President Trump is regretful.

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bgreene 04-19-2022 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 248986)
Your opinion of President Trump is regretful.

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Regretful to you maybe …...honest and based on the FACTS to me.

Destroyer 04-19-2022 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249000)
Regretful to you maybe …...honest and based on the FACTS to me.

Whatever. you have your opinion, I have mine. We'll see how history records him years from now after all the facts about the Democrats and Biden's corruption are made known.

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bgreene 04-20-2022 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 249012)
Whatever. you have your opinion, I have mine. We'll see how history records him years from now after all the facts about the Democrats and Biden's corruption are made known.

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If Trump wins in 2024 , our American democratic system is unraveled and replaced by a completely rigged and controlled lying cheating traitor .
Sounds like Russia and Putin doesn't it .

scook 04-20-2022 06:03 AM

Sounds like what we’re living with now.

bgreene 04-20-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249026)
Sounds like what we’re living with now.

“ Sounds like “ and the facts are very very different .
But I know you favor conspiracy theories over facts.

scook 04-20-2022 11:13 AM

It appears you don’t know much of anything, certainly not that. Once again bgreene with the dishonest insults - very consistent, but not truth or honest facts.

bgreene 04-20-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249038)
It appears you don’t know much of anything, certainly not that. Once again bgreene with the dishonest insults - very consistent, but not truth or honest facts.

“ don’t know much if anything” says the always angry scook !!
Have an apple

Destroyer 04-20-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249043)
“ don’t know much if anything” says the always angry scook !!
Have an apple

Careful....

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scook 04-20-2022 04:13 PM

Not angry, just continually disappointed that bgreene, the sites #1 conspiracy theorist continues dishonest accusations and never engages the subject.

bgreene 04-20-2022 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249055)
Not angry, just continually disappointed that bgreene, the sites #1 conspiracy theorist continues dishonest accusations and never engages the subject.

hahahah referring to ME as a conspiracy theorist is like me referring to you as honest about trump........is just isn't so.

Have an apple.

scook 04-20-2022 06:34 PM

Hmmm - can you name ONE dishonest thing I've EVER said about Trump?

And if your nonsense about Trump as Hitler isn't a conspiracy theory, there is no such thing.

bgreene 04-20-2022 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249065)
Hmmm - can you name ONE dishonest thing I've EVER said about Trump?

And if your nonsense about Trump as Hitler isn't a conspiracy theory, there is no such thing.

Read the parallels of Hitlers methods to ACHIEVE power and TRUMP and it’s obvious .

scook 04-21-2022 12:34 PM

Yup - Biden and his crew in many respects. Attempt to take guns away from "civilians" because they don't "need" them, vilify any disagreement (the enemy), lock them up without due process and for phony reasons, allow your surrogates (BLM, ANTIFA, etc.) free rein, the list goes on.

bgreene 04-21-2022 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by scook (Post 249078)
Yup - Biden and his crew in many respects. Attempt to take guns away from "civilians" because they don't "need" them, vilify any disagreement (the enemy), lock them up without due process and for phony reasons, allow your surrogates (BLM, ANTIFA, etc.) free rein, the list goes on.

Boring

Destroyer 04-21-2022 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249097)
Boring

Perhaps, but also highly accurate.

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scook 04-21-2022 06:30 PM

I imagine living with your head in the sand can be pretty boring.

bgreene 04-24-2022 06:57 AM

Kevin McCarthy - LIAR

“It would be my recommendation you should resign,” McCarthy told fellow GOP House leaders in a Jan. 10, 2021, call, explaining the advice he planned to give to the then-president as a second impeachment loomed. “That would be my take. I don’t think he would take it, but I don’t know.”
In addition to falsely calling the story wrong, McCarthy on Thursday trashed journalists, claiming “the corporate media is obsessed with doing everything it can to further a liberal agenda.”
A spokesman for McCarthy did not respond to a request for comment from HuffPost on Friday.
The Times reporters on Friday released a separate recording of McCarthy telling a broader group of House Republicans, the week after the attack, that Trump had agreed with him that he bore “some responsibility” for what happened. That claim, which was reported at the time without the audio, doesn’t gel with Trump’s behavior then or now. In recent months, Trump has gone so far as to describe the riot as a justified protest against a stolen election.

Destroyer 04-26-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249136)
Kevin McCarthy - LIAR

“It would be my recommendation you should resign,” McCarthy told fellow GOP House leaders in a Jan. 10, 2021, call, explaining the advice he planned to give to the then-president as a second impeachment loomed. “That would be my take. I don’t think he would take it, but I don’t know.”
In addition to falsely calling the story wrong, McCarthy on Thursday trashed journalists, claiming “the corporate media is obsessed with doing everything it can to further a liberal agenda.”
A spokesman for McCarthy did not respond to a request for comment from HuffPost on Friday.
The Times reporters on Friday released a separate recording of McCarthy telling a broader group of House Republicans, the week after the attack, that Trump had agreed with him that he bore “some responsibility” for what happened. That claim, which was reported at the time without the audio, doesn’t gel with Trump’s behavior then or now. In recent months, Trump has gone so far as to describe the riot as a justified protest against a stolen election.

And your point is?

Do you mean that President Trump isn't allowed to have an opinion about the riot?

Do you mean that you won't take the word of the man (McCarthy) that actually said something rather than the spin from a biased news source?

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bgreene 04-28-2022 06:07 PM

The NEW way to be a real player in the Republican Party is :

To LIE, get caught , make excuses and pretend it doesn’t matter.

Destroyer 04-29-2022 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 249304)
The NEW way to be a real player in the Republican Party is :

To LIE, get caught , make excuses and pretend it doesn’t matter.

Oh, it matters all right. You can bet that there will be a price to pay. Just not publicly.

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