January 6, 2021
 

A day that will live in infamy and may represent the marker for Americas end as a true, fair and free democracy.

Trump was the first president in American history to inspire an attempted coup. After a rally where the defeated incumbent urged supporters to fight like hell, the angry mob laid siege to the US Capitol to disrupt the certification of Joe Bidens victory.
Many of the mob openly claimed trump encouraged them to do it and they yelled to kill our Vice President.

People died - directly and indirectly, over 100 police were beaten and bloodied plus damage in the first major attack on the Capitol since the war of 1812. More than 700 of the violent mob have been charged in one of the biggest criminal investigations in American history. This is not over.

This is FACT . This is the TRUTH. Still matters to many Americans

https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/capitol-violence


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tlqAfnwoYno

Still parroting your masters garbage and propaganda I see.

You want some REAL facts and some REAL truth? It was NOT an attempted coup. It was not an insurrection. NO people have been charged with insurrection since it does not meet the legal definition of insurrection. 6 people died. (5 from natural causes and 1 that was shot and murdered by a trigger happy Capital Police guard) Under 150 police were injured in the incursion, far less than the number injured throughout the previous summer by the Democrat encouraged riots in our cities that claimed a number of lives and cost several billions of dollars in damages. The capital police, under the direction of the Speaker of the House, (Nancy Pelosi) rejected offers for help from the National Guard days before the demonstration.
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-p...828a07e4d03380 (WASHINGTON (AP) — Three days before supporters of President Donald Trump assembled at the Capitol, the Pentagon asked the U.S Capitol Police if it needed National Guard manpower. And as the mob descended on the building Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The Capital Police turned them down both times, according to senior defense officials and two people familiar with the matter. Despite plenty of warnings of a possible incursion and ample resources and time to prepare, the Capitol Police planned only for a free speech demonstration).

Understand, this writer is not in any way condoning the actions of a relatively small number of people who broke the law and entered the Capital Building. Regardless of their intentions, and regardless of what they were shouting or chanting, they committed criminal trespass and should be punished for their crimes, just as the people that looted and burned stores all throughout the previous summer should be charged and punished also. We, as a nation, cannot allow criminals to dictate their will upon us.
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I stand with the facts and the truth.
I stand for American values and those who have fought and continue to fight for our democracy. Not conspiracy theories, disinformation and lies.

The rest of the world watching - to see if our great democracy falls under trump and his followers. All you do is contribute to weakening our nation.

What you refer to as garbage is now historically one of the darkest days and greatest threats to our American democracy.
An attempt by trump followers to stop our legitimate, legal, and peaceful transfer of power, and murder Govt officials encouraged by the LOSER trump.

Destroyer Your writing seems as a man later in life , who wants to get even for your own dissatisfactions by supporting the lying cheating con man Donald trump who represents the image of what you wish you were. Many men have done this same thing, from those who joined the German Nazi Party to boys supporting bullies on playgrounds.

Thank you for your opinion Mr. Copy/paste. I'm sure we'll all give it the attention it truly deserves.

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As usual, you’re in a big hurry to try and cover the facts and truth .

LOL Nice trick, changing your post AFTER I responded to it. (What a pity that the post date time/edited stamp shows the sneaky thing you did).

You added:

Kind of sneaky there old man. I may have to change your nickname from Shifty to Sneaky... or maybe use both, like Good ol' Shifty Sneaky

As for your comments about me, I find that very interesting. Since you don't actually know me you have absolutely no point of reference to draw on. You know nothing about me. With no point of reference about me, maybe you're drawing upon our own experiences instead. Maybe it's YOU that's really dissatisfied with your station in life as a salesman selling corrugated board. "I can give you this "E" Flute at a better price than they can".....
You live out your fantasies by thinking that it's other peoples faults for your own menial place in life. You blame them for your failures. It must be hard being you. I pity you...... I actually feel sorry for you.


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Wow destroyers becoming OBSESSED with me - checking on my background , snooping around…..thought I saw your old broken down clunker drive passed my house the other day.
Calm down , take your meds, try to relax. I’m obviously wayyyyyyy too in your head 24/7

Destroyer, save your breath your talking to a Biden supporter He will never change his view , believe me I live next to one, a real nice guy but very ignorant only watches cnn Not a mind of his own, bgreene is just like him
All I have to say is your going to hear about 1/6 Till 2024 cause they are shaking in there boots that Predident Trump will run again , the only thing there missing is they are pissing
people off and are definetley going to for for Trump , Biden and Harris are a bad joke
Trump 2024 and he will have a tough time trying to bring this country back after all the crazy things this POS is doing
Covid is running out of control and you don't hear one dem talking about it And what about Hunter? Look what's happening in Australia hunting people down and jabbing them with this experimental drug , and if Biden can he would do it here too
We have to get past 2022 then on to 2024
Biden, the worst president in history
But bgreene hates trump so much he will vote for anyone but Trump and Donald Trump was and will be the best president in history Promises said promises kept ,

There you go again with the “hates Trump “ excuse to avoid the truth.

Nope I don’t hate trump - he’s a lying cheating con man traitor - that’s just a FACT same as the sky is blue, no hate .

And he lost the election by wide margin that’s a FACT too.

You both call me names bla bla bla but deal with this FACT …..I follow the actual results and what actually happens while you both embrace conspiracy theories and disinformation.

Who’s the righteous one here ? Clearly I am

Jan 6 2021 …. The day trump supporters beat police, smashed their way into our Capitol, tried to stop the legal transfer of presidential power and kill our Vice President .

A dark day encouraged by the lying cheating con man traitor trump .

LOL I guess you forgot that you told me what you did wayyyy back when we met and you went back on your word. I didn't need to do any checking on your background. You told me you were a salesman. I remembered it because I used to work as a Facilities Manager for a corrugated plant. I thought it funny that we both were in similar lines of business. As for my broken down clunker, I got rid of that years ago. Dodge didn't do a very good job of rust proofing back then so while it was still a great vehicle mechanically it got lighter every time I drove it. I now have a newer broken down clunker. Heated Leather power seats seats, 3 row seating, 6 disk Alpine Stereo system, Sunroof, GPS, in roof DVD player, 5.7L Hemi engine, factory installed towing package, 4x4. Ya, she's a real clunker all right.

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The boat you said was “ solid but just needed a good cleaning “ ?
Yeh I gave it a good cleaning alright and found it was a marshmallow waterlogged and mush from bow to rotted out swollen transom !!!

The fantastic clean up job I did to that mess of a boat more than covered when we settled up.
You shouldn’t have brought that up but since you did this is just another FACT !

Back to January 6, 2021

You want FACTS? Here's a FACT!!! You're so full of BullSh*t it's coming out your ears. You cleaned PART of the inside of the boat. Did a pretty good job I'll admit. Did nothing for the outside, The boat was FREE and I told you that while I thought it was in good condition it's condition was UNKNOWN. I even told you that several times while you were inspecting the boat when you got her. Remember?... when you were walking all over her looking for soft spots? You spent almost an hour inspecting her. So don't give me any garbage that you didn't know or understand the terms of the deal or didn't know the condition of the boat.

You paid $500 for the trailer it was on (that was worth twice that) and then the very next day (not surprisingly) you went back on your word and started crying you wanted out of the deal. I was under NO OBLIGATION to take it back but I felt sorry for you so I took it back. Even with the $50 you gave me towards tolls, the tolls and brand new tires on the trailer still cost me over $200. So don't give me any bullsh*t about cleaning the boat or the like. You cannot be trusted on any deal, You welch and go back on your word. You cannot be trusted.

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Well thats YOUR STORY as I took that water logged boat off your hands in pouring rain without inspecting .
I didnt crawl all over it for an hour - there was too much wood and other crap inside that I saw, and it was raining too hard. Im quite good at cleaning things up which I did to that water logged sponge of a boat .
You shouldnt bring this up but you did and that rig was among the worst Id ever seen once I checked close up.
Advertised as solid just needs good cleaning hahahah not even close.
Let it go or continue crying about it , no matter. As I recall you then sold it to the next victim .

First off, I had to bring it up because you accused me of doing research on you when, in fact, it was you that told me what your occupation was during that transaction.

You STILL don't get it do you. Try to pay attention here.... THE BOAT WAS FREE. I never said that it was good or bad.. what I said was that it had been sitting in my yard for several years, and that I thought that it was solid but I made no promises. You went into the Cuddy, you walked all over the bow section looking for soft spots, you walked all over the deck both front and rear looking for soft spots, you pushed on the 200HP Johnson engine to see if you could flex the transom (You couldn't)

I will give you credit though, Like I said in my first post you did clean the one part of the boat nicely. As I recall you said you used soap mixed with bleach? You really are good at cleaning things up like you said. Maybe you missed your calling? You should have been a janitor.

So ok, I'll take it back, you didn't "crawl" , You "walked" all over the boat for about 3/4 of an hour.

YOU BOUGHT THE TRAILER!!! YOU RENEGGED ON THE TRAILER DEAL!!!

I sold you a trailer for $500 that was worth twice as much. It had 2 brand new tires on it purchased the day before from Firestone. The bearings were a week old, the hitch was brand new, it was a heavy duty, Galvanized steel Shorelandr' roller trailer with working rollers in great shape and no rust.

THAT IS THE DEAL THAT YOU RENEGGED ON!

I felt sorry for you so I took it back a few days later, at considerable expense to myself. YOU cost me over $200 in gas and tolls. So If I were you I'd shut my mouth and stop lying.



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[QUOTE=Destroyer;246682]First off, I had to bring it up because you accused me of doing research on you when, in fact, it was you that told me what your occupation was during that transaction.

You STILL don't get it do you. Try to pay attention here.... THE BOAT WAS FREE. I never said that it was good or bad.. what I said was that it had been sitting in my yard for several years, and that I thought that it was solid but I made no promises. You went into the Cuddy, you walked all over the bow section looking for soft spots, you walked all over the deck both front and rear looking for soft spots, you pushed on the 200HP Johnson engine to see if you could flex the transom (You couldn't)

I will give you credit though, Like I said in my first post you did clean the one part of the boat nicely. As I recall you said you used soap mixed with bleach? You really are good at cleaning things up like you said. Maybe you missed your calling? You should have been a janitor.

So ok, I'll take it back, you didn't "crawl" , You "walked" all over the boat for about 3/4 of an hour.

YOU BOUGHT THE TRAILER!!! YOU RENEGGED ON THE TRAILER DEAL!!!

I sold you a trailer for $500 that was worth twice as much. It had 2 brand new tires on it purchased the day before from Firestone. The bearings were a week old, the hitch was brand new, it was a heavy duty, Galvanized steel Shorelandr' roller trailer with working rollers in great shape and no rust.

THAT IS THE DEAL THAT YOU RENEGGED ON!

I felt sorry for you so I took it back a few days later, at considerable expense to myself. YOU cost me over $200 in gas and tolls. So If I were you I'd shut my mouth and stop lying.




Hey goofie - why you started crying about your boat sale on historic January 6 Insurrection rememberance is silly enough.

Your boat was a wet sponge , you obviously knew it, I wasted my time making it look presentable and we settled up. Neither of us pleased, but we settled up.
Stop your crying or start a whine thread .

That’s a horrible shame for many reasons.
The man did put himself in a bad situation, during a violent event.

Lots of injustice occurs every day, in many ways that goes unreported too .
People have spent decades in jails for crimes they didn’t commit, lynchings, violent crime .
And some have escaped justice for many reasons including having the money for pay offs and many lawyers .

I know what you’re trying to suggest - but it does not “ white wash away” in any way the historical trump encouraged violent insurrection attempt at our Capitol .

Matthew Perna entered an open door manned by two Capitol police officers who did not attempt to stop him. Matthew did not carry a weapon, assault a police officer, or damage any property. His family said he stayed within the rope lines and took photos that afternoon.

Matthew—by all accounts a gentle soul, a devoted son and friend, a man who loved his country—had never been in any legal trouble in his life and presumably believed he, like any American, would be treated fairly by the justice system. That's not what happened. What Matthew and his family, as well as thousands of his countrymen, quickly learned is that they would be used as human pawns in the pResident's regime’s vicious and vengeful war on terror against Trump supporters.

Ok now you’re going with excuses …..” vicious, vengeful war on trump supporters”.
That was trumps violent mob that attacked our Capitol, attacking police andmaking threats to kill our Vice President .
ANYONE not authorized also entering the Capitol during that put themselves in harms way.
You want to spin it otherwise , that’s your business but it’s spin.

Matthew Perna was not violent. He attacked no one. He walked through an open door manned by two Capitol police officers who did not attempt to stop him. He took photos. When two alleged acquaintances who followed Perna on Facebook notified the FBI that he was one of the individuals on the FBI’s wanted list, he discovered he was on the list and turned himself in to his local FBI office. A week later, six FBI agents arrested him at his home, He was charged with a felony count of obstruction of an official proceeding and three trespassing misdemeanors. With the case drawing out, Perna plead guilty in a plea offer. But Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, according to Perna's attorney, planned to seek a lengthy prison sentence for Perna after he plead guilty to all four charges. “What drove him (Perna) over the edge was the government announced it would seek an eight-level enhancement [to his sentence] for threatening to cause physical injury to a person in order to obstruct the administration of justice,” said Perna's attorney. Perna, who committed no violent crime and has no criminal record would have faced 57 to 71 months in prison.

Spin pipe spin !
Injustice is everywhere - the man should NOT have joined the violent mob and entered the Capitol . Yes - bad things happen to good people - especially when they PUT THEMSELVES in harms way .

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because of a vendetta against a former President and anyone who supported him.

Pipe - you’re really stretching your conspiracy theory rubber band trying to make excuses for trump.
Ukrainians are literally fighting for their country and their lives , and here you are…..safe and secure making excuses for why X President trump of our United States ok to be calling Putin a genius for any reason. Wow

When are you deploying?

I am making no excuses for Trump. But you seem hell bent on making excuses for prosecutorial misconduct.

A friend writes

"Actions have consequences." But most of the time, they do not. What were this man's actions, and what were the consequences? Apparently he walked past helpful policemen, walked around, took pictures, left. These actions had consequences - detention without trial, despair, suicide. If he had been a wealthy grifter, he would have faced no consequences. If you're Joe or Hunter Biden, you can make money, big money, suborning or collaborating with governments; you might even be allowed to walk around and take pictures without being jailed. If you're of the approved class, you can quite literally burn cities, kill people, destroy whatever you want, and you will not be hunted, jailed, prosecuted. You might even be allowed to walk around and take pictures - actions which, according to some, are treasonous and require permanent detention, without bail, without hope of trial. If you are correctly affiliated, you can riot and burn, night after night, forever if need be, and your government will not hunt you down, will not imprison you, will even allow you to walk around and take pictures - all without consequences.

But yes, actions have consequences, sometimes, for some people. So choose better friends and associates, do not keep wrong or unapproved ideas, do not walk around and take pictures, avoid consequences. Above all do not protest your government, not here, not in Canada, not in Russia, not in China. There will be consequences.

Excuses , and more excuses .

If you run out into traffic and get hit by a car…..it’s mostly your own fault.
Same applies to your nonsense on this topic .

Jan 6 investigation committee wants the court to force release of documents between trump and lawyer that may be specific to the Jan 6 insurrection.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/02/polit...tee/index.html

If they get that it will forever destroy the lawyer/client privilege so entwined in our Constitutional law. The same as a spouse cannot be made to testify against their partner. Just one step closer to communism Comrade. But of course you cannot see that since you're blinded by your hate for President Trump. You're like a sheep being led to slaughter, You just trustingly follow the Judas goat (Democrats)


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Just the FACTS about the lying cheating con man traitor trump, nothing more

Over 780 people have now been charged for participating in the Capitol attack.

And at least 10 have also been charged with attempted Insurrection against our United States Government .

Wow

https://www.insider.com/all-the-us-c...s-names-2021-1

So? What, exactly, do you think that proves?

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Says destroyer who claimed there was no insurrection attempt.
Now many FORMALLY CHARGED with Insurrection.

Meaning youre wrong again destroyer as you also tried to minimize one of the most historic events in our nations history by trying to call it the few that got rowdy.

Okay, ya got me partner.... I'm a going fast <cough> Tell Aunty Emme I said good bye.. <cough>.

I guess I would be remiss if I pointed out that those FORMAL charges only came after almost a year and only after the AG was urged by the Democrats to make such charges because people were saying that no one had been charged with insurrection and so the demonstration could not have been an insurrection attempt and it was blowing holes in the Democrats sham investigation of President Trump's involvement (or lack thereof) in the demonstration.

But believe what you will. You're right, some people have now been charged with that crime.

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I don’t just “ believe what I will “ as you write destroyer - I check and follow the FACTS.

Trump supporting violent mob attacked our Capitol Police, smashed into our Capitol with intent to stop the legal transfer of Presidential powers, while also making terroristic threats to kill our Vice President . Attempted insurrection - a major, violent, illegal historical event in our nations history.
Approx 800 people already arrested so far as our Justice System conducts the biggest investigation in our history.
And several now, after careful and legal confirmation - charged with sedition against our nation.

More perspective on the 7 hour phone silence from Trump .
Why did trump avoid the regular phone on Jan 6 ?
What phones did he use and why ?

https://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchel...t-136592965932

"More perspective" on a non-issue.

Or don't you believe your own national enquirer any more?

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/31/polit...ogs/index.html

CNN …..solid and fair reporting - as usual

Ahhhh... so you admit that you were wrong and that there were no missing 7 hours like you would have had us believe?

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