No voter fraud?
 

Admittedly, these are just isolated events, but they do underscore what I and others have ben saying right along. Namely that mail in voting simply cannot be trusted, there are too many ways for it to be manipulated.

https://www.westernjournal.com/wi-sh...es=%5B-MD5-%5D

WRONG - our military personnel stationed around the world have used mail in voting for decades and it works just fine.
The lying cheating traitor trump tried to stop the count in PA before the mail in votes came in because he knew those were mostly BIDEN votes.

Stop spinning the BS . Trump lost the election - no fraud found by his audits

The military system is not the same as the one’s Destroyer is citing. His link makes that clear - the systems he mentions are VERY vulnerable to fraud.

Trump lost fair and square . Stop supporting the big lie that threatens our democracy

Military votes are sent to either an APO or FPO (Army Post Office/ Fleet Post Office) where they are held until voting begins, then counted by the military under watchful supervision. The results are then forwarded to the responsible authorities. There is zero chance of any cheating. It is an entirely different system then the one used by civilians. The only thing they have in common is the fact that they are both mail in systems. :head:

Isn't it strange that any time greenie is presented with facts his narrative changes.... Like his answer to this post from you is "Trump lost fair and square . Stop supporting the big lie that threatens our democracy" which, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with the subject matter. How strange...... It's almost as if he didn't want to admit the truth and fact of your post.

There does seem to be strong confirmation bias affecting his posts.

I was a little surprised when I saw a collection of clips of the far left media personalities spewing the flagrant, intense accusations of the “big lie” - it was beyond ridiculous.

When asking for honesty in elections, wanting audits to find fraud and actually finding fraud and massive vulnerability to fraud amounts to a big lie and threat to our democracy, it sounds like the progressives are in charge.

When there’s no acknowledgement of the lying and cheating of the Clinton campaign, the lying and cheating of the incredibly slimy Adam Schiff and his posse, the lying and cheating of the FBI, etc. it’s not an honest discussion - probably a waste of time to pursue.

Theres been NO EVIDENCE of any voting fraud

NOT brought to court with evidence
NOT found from audits
NOT provided by the pillow guy liar either

Trump the lying cheating con man traitor LOST by MILLIONS of votes to Biden .

Thats the FACT so commiserate all you want it doesnt change the RESULT .
Trump beat Clinton by a small margin but she accepted the lost .

Sure he did , Sleepy Joe won fair and square , How can anyone not think sleepy Joe won with a fair election I mean look at how he was out getting his point across at all of his rally's there was so many showing up that they had to cut them off when he got 20 people at his jam packed rally's . Trumps rally's were all made up but sleepy had a car with people inside The man was tired cause he was out all the time campaigning He's a animal . Cmon man admit it Joes a animal, never sleeps And a great negotiator too. Going from energy independence to begging opec to increase production It's all a master plan ... Sharp as a tack , he looks tired cause of all the random questions he takes He has to slow down ,,,,,,, An animal

Rallies ? MOST Americans that voted for BIDEN had little interest in attending COVID spreading rallies . Also it was more a vote to reject Trump than a love for Biden .
The overwhelming majority of Americans saw through trumps BS and his threat to our democracy.
I realize you don’t understand based on Trumps huge attendance at rallies but it was NOT the voting majority of Americans. I voted BIDEN and I mailed in my ballot so as to avoid COVID risk. Trump lovers make big noise about it believing trump is what he says he is — but he isn’t.
He’s a terrific con man who ultimately put himself first above his oath . He LOST the election and created the big LIE about it.
READ and accept the FACTS. Don’t let trump rule our nation and eliminate our system of fair elections

It's going to be funny to hear your comments in 2024 when President Trump is reelected. And even funnier when his son OR daughter is elected in 2028.

Funny ? No not funny as he’ll repeal everything good or not good just to get even.
Funny to a traitor.

Whatever you say Mr. Silly pants

:haha: YOU :you:

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Oh no vulgarity this time ? Meds kicking in ?

Whatever you say Comrade poopy pants

:haha: YOU :you:

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Destroyer - youre just one of the ignorant dominos to destroy our American democracy nothing more. That may be your historical voting legacy. A disgrace to our nation.

You are entitled to your opinion. Unless the Dams re-write it I'm sure that history will show who was right and who was wrong. I'm betting that the only one with egg on his face will be you.

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Not “opinion” destroyer - historical facts that you know are true but your love for the lying cheating con man traitor trump is so great you’ll sell out our country.

We're sorry to inform you that your opinion can not be considered as historical fact. If fact, it is only an opinion.

As to my selling out my Country I'll let our records stand for themselves. My service record against yours. Oh wait, that's right, you never served did you? So much for the coward afraid to actually defend his Country.

My dad served in Korean War - and he wouldn’t sell out to the lying cheating con man traitor trump either . Don’t play the served game as excuse.

isnt that what joe did? How is the border working out? He wore out 20 crayons signing stuff. You blame Trump for stuff that joe is doing right now?

Everything trump is based on the facts that hes a lying cheating con man traitor to America.
No voter fraud - the fraud is trump himself

No voter fraud in your mind, but a lot of voter fraud in other peoples minds. All you have is your opinion.

Again with the opinion nonsense .
It’s not an “ opinion” that BIDEN won - its FACT

Not the nonsense Kelly Anne Conway claimed when she said “ alternative facts”

There’s no such thing as alternative facts. FACTS are what occurred - comfirmed .

Everything you say Trump did joe is doing now. You keep saying there was no voter fraud. Maybe there wasnt. But if you go into a store and the owner says "hey, your stole a snickers bar and put it in your pocket" and you refuse to empty your pockets , how does that make you look?

There was no refusal to prove the resulting …..
1. Trump lawyers went to courts to plead their case - thrown out for lack of evidence.
That’s known as a frivolous law suit.

2. Re counts and audits actually resulted in the same outcome - BIDEN won

3. Only refusal was REPUBLICAN law makers who refused to cheat for Trump - he asked th to come up with votes they didnt have

1) MOST of the lawsuits that were dismissed by the courts were not dismissed due to lack of evidence. They were dismissed with the reason they were filed too late because the courts ruled that the time period started at the beginning of the campaign, not at the actual election date which was months later. Yes, some were dismissed because of lack of evidence, but when the object of the lawsuit is to OBTAIN evidence, and the lawsuit is rejected it's a Catch-22 situation. You need the evidence to file a lawsuit, and the reason for the lawsuit is to get the evidence you need.

2) Recounts only resulted in the same outcome because questionable votes, (like the 57,000 in AZ) were not allowed to be scrutinized.

3) Once again you postulate the lie that President Trump asked them to lie. In fact, he never asked them to do any such thing. Even the link that you provided as proof never had any such verbiage on it.

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there was no recounts or audits in PA, Why do you keep lying that there was?

Show me where I specifically discussed Pennsylvania ?
There was no recount there because BIDEN WON by wide enough margin under the laws.

So now you change your story? U said the votes have been counted and recounted. But when someone questions you on your "facts" you change what you said.
So now there was no recount?

Try READING and LEARN the status of recounts that costing us tax payers $ millions of wasted money.
Arizona for example - the county trump demanded that he won recount added up to even BIGGER win by a few votes for Biden that before the recount.
Trump lost fair and square, but rather than do the right thing for country - hes a lying cheating con man traitor


https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ef8_story.html

So now you were just talking about Arizona? Maybe you need to READ what you post?

Play your games ….. the REAL issue and FACT is Trump lost to Biden , there was no fraud , trumps people found no fraud, our own Dept of Homeland Security also confirmed there was no fraud and that our voting system is even mor safe and secure than previous.

Trumps a lying cheating con man traitor and his followers either believe his empty BS or they know it’s BS and just don’t care . Either way - you’re only pushing our great nation from a democracy to a dictatorship .

If there was no Fraud then WHY are they not investigating the 57,000 questionable votes in AZ? What are they afraid of?

Again I ask, WHY is the Dept. of Homeland Ssecurity (also known as America's Gestapo or KGB) "investigating" the election results? We already know that the FBI and the IRS have been weaponized by the Democrats, and most recently the FBI was used to raid Project Veritas headquarters, supposedly over Biden's daughter's missing diary. But they took records and documents unrelated to any Diary.

Sending federal law enforcement after political adversaries. Say, isn't that what dictators do like in Russia and China and Venezuela and Cuba? Isn't that what Hitler did where he eliminated his political adversaries?

You keep claiming that President Trump wanted to establish a dictatorship with no proof, but you turn a blind eye to the Democrats actually doing what dictatorships do, Censoring news and information, lying, misrepresenting, controlling the media, brainwashing the children in schools, weaponizing Federal agencies to go after political opponents, cheating, then falsifying election results and blocking by every means available any sort of recount or investigation.

And it's just plain ignorant to think that our voting system is really safe. The opportunities for fraud are monumental.

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Hot air about nothing destroyer - BIDEN WON BY MILLIONS OF VOTES …..
You know it - you just pretend otherwise

NO, BIDEN DID NOT WIN BY MILLIONS OF VOTES!!! Millions of votes do NOT count for anything. What you either win or lose by is the electoral votes, and that's exactly what President Trumps objections were and are all about. Too many of the states were narrow, questionable victories for Biden. I suggest you study our election process and what dictates who wins or looses.
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Youre WRONG AGAIN destroyer - BIDEN DID win by millions of votes

The voting results were as follows
Electoral College Votes: Biden 306 trump 232
Popular Voting Results: Biden 81 million trump 74 million

While you discount the popular vote because it doesnt determine the winner - this popular vote certainly did show the will of American people to kick trump out of office

Again, I'm NOT questioning the popular vote. I'm simply pointing out to you the inaccuracies of your post. If you remember even HRC had more popular votes than Trump in 2016, yet she lost the election. Your statement that Biden won by millions of votes is inaccurate. He "won" by garnering most electoral votes, of which there are less than 600. It is those votes that President Trump objects to because several of the states were very close.

Some states were “ close “ you say . A score of 100 to 95 is close but there’s still a LOSER and trump LOST . It’s been confirmed and reconfirmed .
And YES MILLIONS more Americans voted for Biden .

SO WHAT? WHAT the heck does it matter if more Americans voted for Biden over Trump? You keep harking on that like it's some kind of secret that you're finally telling the world. We all know that. We also know that it means NOTHING. ZERO, ZIP, NADA, NOTHING!!! Try, no, I mean really really try hard to understand this simply fact.... The popular vote does NOT matter. ONLY the electoral vote matters.

Here's another thing to consider. It looks like a lopsided win for Biden, but if you take away just 38 electoral votes from Biden and give them to Trump then Trump would have been the winner.

306 -38 = 268 for Biden.
232 + 38 =270 for Trump.

So the difference of only 38 electoral votes was the difference between having a real President in the WH or having the disastrous senile feckless old clown that we have now. And you wonder why fraud was and still is suspected after all those states suddenly (and many illegally) changed to mail in voting?


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