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bgreene 06-23-2021 11:30 PM

COVID Delta variant
 
Delta variant quickly becoming the dominant COVID strain in our country.

Extremely contagious, and threatens to set us back with a 2nd wave hitting those NOT vaccinated ……and all the impact hassles that would mean again.

GET THE VACCINE

oteps 06-24-2021 06:03 AM

Nope. Remember when the news said they were piling up bodies in ice skating rinks? Im not at risk at all. perfectly healthy.

bgreene 07-09-2021 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by oteps (Post 242305)
Nope. Remember when the news said they were piling up bodies in ice skating rinks? Im not at risk at all. perfectly healthy.

You say youre not at all at risk - thats impressive. How do you know and what have you done to be at zero risk ?

charlie_the_tuna 07-09-2021 12:13 PM

So you’re suggesting that otherwise healthy people take an experimental vaccine?!?
A 13 year old child just died because as an otherwise healthy child, his a$$hole parents took him to get an experimental vaccine.
You’d have to be an utter imbecile to be perfectly healthy and volunteer for an experimental vaccine. Perhaps for somebody in their 70s or 80s..... sure.

oteps 07-09-2021 07:06 PM

Its not a vaccine. It just makes the symptoms less and you can still get it and give it to other people. Im not at risk meant im not at a high risk to die from it. Im 42 take no meds and perfectly healthy, why get an experimental "vaccine"? I dont mean to offend anyone, I know theres alot of people that have died with covid and some from covid. I personally know of one that dies of covid but refused medical treatment. And one that died from the shot. I look around where I live and whats going on and decide whats best for me and my family. Thats the way it should be, not someone i dont know on the computer that doesnt know me telling me medical advice. My family will not be getting the shot at all. For the people that got the shot already thats their decision and I respect that.

bgreene 07-10-2021 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by charlie_the_tuna (Post 242495)
So you’re suggesting that otherwise healthy people take an experimental vaccine?!?
A 13 year old child just died because as an otherwise healthy child, his a$$hole parents took him to get an experimental vaccine.
You’d have to be an utter imbecile to be perfectly healthy and volunteer for an experimental vaccine. Perhaps for somebody in their 70s or 80s..... sure.

You sure feel cocky throwing information around that’s not accurate .
Over 600,000 Americans dead from COVID and many suffering whats now being called long haul illnesses. Less than a tenth of one percent seriously ill from the vaccine.
Now DELTA variant rapidly spreading song the non vaccinated. So I guess 60% of Americans are imbeciles according to you

Destroyer 07-11-2021 12:13 AM

Just to be clear.

According to the AMA and several news sources, the Delta variant is extremely contagious, BUT, it is not as lethal as the original Covid-19. In fact, in most cases it's reported to be akin to catching a mild case of the flu.

bgreene 07-11-2021 04:42 AM

Destroyer and according to other sources the data is not clear yet .
Your claim that delta variant is like a mild case of the flu is a big jump from scientific concern.

Statistics and facts
1. Over 99% of Covid deaths in America are among NON vaccinated people.
2. The vaccines are proving extremely protective against covid.
3. A booster is being developed in case the vaccine effectiveness is determined to drop over the long term - same as booster for existing common vaccines .

kheid 08-03-2021 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242507)
You sure feel cocky throwing information around that’s not accurate .
Over 600,000 Americans dead from COVID and many suffering whats now being called long haul illnesses. Less than a tenth of one percent seriously ill from the vaccine.
Now DELTA variant rapidly spreading song the non vaccinated. So I guess 60% of Americans are imbeciles according to you

what info did he say that wasnt accurate?

kheid 08-03-2021 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242513)
destroyer and according to other sources the data is not clear yet .
Your claim that delta variant is like a mild case of the flu is a big jump from scientific concern.

Statistics and facts
1. Over 99% of covid deaths in america are among non vaccinated people.
2. The vaccines are proving extremely protective against covid.
3. A booster is being developed in case the vaccine effectiveness is determined to drop over the long term - same as booster for existing common vaccines .

over 99 percent of covid deaths are people over 60 and have a underlying health problem!.......stop posting fake stuff !....u sound like the mayor of baltimore with all ur trumper talk...the mayor of baltimore just said the same thing u did....40 percent vaccinated in one community in park heights....called it trump people lololololololol....it is the ghetto and noone living there voted for trump...they are dumb...just like u !

bgreene 08-04-2021 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by kheid (Post 242739)
over 99 percent of covid deaths are people over 60 and have a underlying health problem!.......stop posting fake stuff !....u sound like the mayor of baltimore with all ur trumper talk...the mayor of baltimore just said the same thing u did....40 percent vaccinated in one community in park heights....called it trump people lololololololol....it is the ghetto and noone living there voted for trump...they are dumb...just like u !

Wrong

charlie_the_tuna 08-04-2021 08:10 PM

Yeah... more than 60% of Americans are imbeciles. Please disprove anything I’ve said. My wife was vaccinated and she got the corona. I’ve had it. That idiot fauci said I’m safe. You feel the need to stay under your bed, by all means. I see no reason to pump an experimental drug into completely healthy people.
Moron!!!

bgreene 08-05-2021 06:33 AM

FACTS
1. Vaccine is proving to reduce the severity of covid illness, reduced hospitalizations and reduced deaths.
2. New Delta variant is much more contagious .
3. Hospitalizations AND deaths are surging in states with lower percent of population vaccinated.

For our National Security our military personnel are being vaccinated - mandatory.

kheid 08-05-2021 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242792)
FACTS
1. Vaccine is proving to reduce the severity of covid illness, reduced hospitalizations and reduced deaths.
2. New Delta variant is much more contagious .
3. Hospitalizations AND deaths are surging in states with lower percent of population vaccinated.

For our National Security our military personnel are being vaccinated - mandatory.

17 people shot and killed in baltimore in 2 weeks ...6 people died of covid...Which is worse?

bgreene 08-05-2021 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kheid (Post 242798)
17 people shot and killed in baltimore in 2 weeks ...6 people died of covid...Which is worse?

Totally irrelevant to the topic . Are you brain dead ?

oteps 08-05-2021 09:52 PM

Its not a vaccine! If u can still get covid and spread it to other people, is it a vaccine? No its like taking dayquil for a cold.

bgreene 08-06-2021 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by oteps (Post 242822)
Its not a vaccine! If u can still get covid and spread it to other people, is it a vaccine? No its like taking dayquil for a cold.

Oteps - that’s an interesting and smart comment .
Since the result is much less severe illness, way fewer hospitalizations or deaths guess call it whatever because it works .

kheid 08-06-2021 09:03 AM

Originally Posted by kheid View Post
17 people shot and killed in baltimore in 2 weeks ...6 people died of covid...Which is worse?


Totally irrelevant to the topic . Are you brain dead ?

ur answer was wrong...again...so my statistic proves u are more likely to get shot and killed in baltimore than die of corona....once again these are facts...u choose to say they are irrelevant?...i beg to differ....death is death dumbass!

bgreene 08-06-2021 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kheid (Post 242838)
Originally Posted by kheid View Post
17 people shot and killed in baltimore in 2 weeks ...6 people died of covid...Which is worse?


Totally irrelevant to the topic . Are you brain dead ?

ur answer was wrong...again...so my statistic proves u are more likely to get shot and killed in baltimore than die of corona....once again these are facts...u choose to say they are irrelevant?...i beg to differ....death is death dumbass!

You can beg all you want kheid but crime is irrelevant to the subject of covid

randlemanboater 08-09-2021 11:13 AM

I remember the good old days when we had discussions on our forum without calling people names and insulting them....

bgreene 08-09-2021 12:05 PM

So trump loving Florida governors been vocally against vaccines and against masks .
Result being Florida has highest delta infections.

For those that follow real facts.

kheid 08-19-2021 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242917)
So trump loving Florida governors been vocally against vaccines and against masks .
Result being Florida has highest delta infections.

For those that follow real facts.


If you test positive, most tests won't tell you what strain of the virus you have, said Dr. David Winter, Director of Internal Medicine at Baylor Scott & White hospital in Dallas.

"We don't always know [the variant] when we do the regular tests," Winter said. "We do that in epidemiological studies ... The routine testing for COVID-19 will just tell you if you have the coronavirus. It doesn't tell you what strain you might have."

Health officials are able to identify COVID-19 strains through genetic sequencing, a process different from a standard COVID-19 test.

For example, earlier this month, Parkland's chief medical officer, Dr. Joe Chang, estimated that 30-40% of new COVID-19 cases in North Texas were of the delta variant. But that was an estimate because, as Chang explained, it would be impractical for Parkland to test every COVID-19 test for genetic sequencing to identify the specific variant.

kheid 08-19-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242917)
So trump loving Florida governors been vocally against vaccines and against masks .
Result being Florida has highest delta infections.

For those that follow real facts.

WRONG AGAIN!!!...cdc cant even do simple math...and u believe these people??


One of the state’s leading epidemiologists said it appears the federal agency made a simple math error.

“It appears the CDC divided by two instead of three,” said Jason Salemi, an epidemiologist at the University of South Florida, who runs one of the most comprehensive and closely watched COVID-19 trackers in the state

bgreene 08-21-2021 09:08 PM

Kheid —- how about the rest of the report you used ???
Well here - I’ll post if for you

….” But, Florida has consistently reported more new cases than any other state in the nation although Louisiana, which has tallied 810 cases per 100,000 residents, has topped the Sunshine State in terms of per capita infections.

Even though Florida is second to Louisiana in that category, the number of state residents stricken with the highly contagious respiratory disease continues to soar.”

So Kheid …” I was NOT wrong - youre just SNEAKY.

bgreene 08-25-2021 11:59 AM

People dying from COVID because they made bad decisions about the vaccine .

Another horrible example :
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-n1277611

Destroyer 08-29-2021 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 243453)
People dying from COVID because they made bad decisions about the vaccine .

Another horrible example :
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...covid-n1277611

That might be 100% factual, but it was their choice. I'm sure they regretted it before they died. My point is it was THEIR choice, not some political hack someplace telling them what they can or cannot do. It's none of their business.
Should we ban all cars because tens of thousands die each year on the highways? And hundreds (thousands?) die from drownings each year so lets get rid of all backyard pools and ban people from the beaches and lakes. I hope you see my point.

bgreene 09-02-2021 06:26 AM

When we were kids, school would not allow us in without our vaccines .

The vaccines were mandatory. This is no different.

The science behind the COVID vaccines is decades old.
Its not as new as some claim. Its just tuned to this virus .

bgreene 09-07-2021 06:45 AM

Good news latest…..3rd shot as booster expected to provide near full protection……

Bad news…..hospitals in high “ no vaccine regions” full with covid sick ….no room to assists others needed assorted med care.

Get the vaccines - don’t be selfish.
We can beat this thing…..except for the many with covid long haulers illnesses that have development from covid affecting CNS, heart, brain, kidneys, skin, and other illnesses . Very sad.

oteps 09-07-2021 07:46 PM

provide near full protection? just like the 1st shot.

bgreene 09-23-2021 02:19 AM

Oteps I bet you received vaccines shortly after you were born !! Hahahah
Just like the rest of us.

oteps 09-23-2021 07:18 AM

Ones that worked and were around for years. This time its my choice. Just like we still have a choice to drive a prius or an f350, ride a motorcycle, buy a gun, eat at fast foods, go to the gym, go to the amusement park.
I only know of a handful of people that have had covid in the last month. One was vaccinated. They all survived, just like the flu. My nieghbors mom died from the shot.
I work alone, my wife stays home and helps my son with cyber school. Im not around people much. and we are all heathy, no need for the shot. Not sure how long the antibodies last. We had the kung flu before.
I think its the vaccinated people that are spreading it. Think they cant get it or give it to someone else. It makes the symptoms less and they dont even know they have it, them pass it on. But thats my opinion and I know mine has to be the same as yours or you will argue and put some cnn news link up.
You can get your shots if you want, I will not.

bgreene 10-29-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oteps (Post 243866)
Ones that worked and were around for years. This time its my choice. Just like we still have a choice to drive a prius or an f350, ride a motorcycle, buy a gun, eat at fast foods, go to the gym, go to the amusement park.
I only know of a handful of people that have had covid in the last month. One was vaccinated. They all survived, just like the flu. My nieghbors mom died from the shot.
I work alone, my wife stays home and helps my son with cyber school. Im not around people much. and we are all heathy, no need for the shot. Not sure how long the antibodies last. We had the kung flu before.
I think its the vaccinated people that are spreading it. Think they cant get it or give it to someone else. It makes the symptoms less and they dont even know they have it, them pass it on. But thats my opinion and I know mine has to be the same as yours or you will argue and put some cnn news link up.
You can get your shots if you want, I will not.


The masks reduce the risk of spread.
The vaccine greatly reduces extent of illness and reduces hospitalizations - so theres more room for people with other health needs. Thats not good enough for you correct thats your selfish business.

Regarding COVID statistics , over 740,000 Americans DEAD from COVID.
Only 3-4 cases of death from the over 300 million vaccines administered to Americans so far.
Vaccines are saving lives.

oteps 10-29-2021 09:08 PM

Put on a double mast and keep watching the news from your basement and you will be fine.

bgreene 11-01-2021 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oteps (Post 244483)
Put on a double mast and keep watching the news from your basement and you will be fine.

Not what I do sir - I did the right thing for myself and for others to help limit the spread of COVID. I suspect the families of the 740,000 Americans that died from COVID appreciate those simple measures. Might show some respect .

oteps 11-01-2021 06:20 AM

Do you drive a car? Show some respect and stay home. You may cause an accident.

oteps 11-01-2021 06:26 AM

Why do you have to attack people for having their own opinion? If you want the shot and all the boosters then go get them. Incase you havent talked to people they are still getting and spreading covid with the shot. It dosent make you immune and you can still spread it. I though you were the facts guy? No I dont want a news story from the enquirer to look at. I talk to my friends and family. Some work at hospitals and nursing homes.
Let everyone have their own opinion and stop being a jerk about everything.

bgreene 11-01-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oteps (Post 244566)
Why do you have to attack people for having their own opinion? If you want the shot and all the boosters then go get them. Incase you havent talked to people they are still getting and spreading covid with the shot. It dosent make you immune and you can still spread it. I though you were the facts guy? No I dont want a news story from the enquirer to look at. I talk to my friends and family. Some work at hospitals and nursing homes.
Let everyone have their own opinion and stop being a jerk about everything.

Otep or oreol ….anyway you try to diminish me by suggesting I post from poor sources of news.
Well that not true because I’ve provided FACTS from many sources most of which you discredit because you don’t want to deal with TRUTH.

FACT is proven wearing masks has reduced the COVID spread and the vaccine greatly reduces most all cases from requiring hospitalization.
This is not OPINION it’s FACT.

And by the way I’m not a jerk as you refer to me.
I mostly do the RIGHT thing when called upon to help and simple mask and vaccine helps.
So go get your shine box.

bgreene 12-10-2021 04:51 PM

COVID update:

Surge in DEATHS among the unvaccinated and only partially vaccinated .

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/10/us/la...rge/index.html

Destroyer 12-11-2021 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 244476)
The masks reduce the risk of spread.
The vaccine greatly reduces extent of illness and reduces hospitalizations - so theres more room for people with other health needs. Thats not good enough for you correct thats your selfish business.

Regarding COVID statistics , over 740,000 Americans DEAD from COVID.
Only 3-4 cases of death from the over 300 million vaccines administered to Americans so far.
Vaccines are saving lives.

Actually, well over 19,000 people have died after receiving one of the 3 different brands of vaccines. Let me stress that NOT all of those deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine. Some might be from underlying health reasons, both known or unknown. But the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) reporting doesn't lie on the numbers.

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bgreene 12-11-2021 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 245880)
Actually, well over 19,000 people have died after receiving one of the 3 different brands of vaccines. Let me stress that NOT all of those deaths are directly attributable to the vaccine. Some might be from underlying health reasons, both known or unknown. But the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) reporting doesn't lie on the numbers.

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Actually deaths from the vaccine are as follows:
Between December 2020 and July 19th, 2021, VAERS received 6,207 reports of death (0.0018% of doses) among people who got a vaccine, but this does not mean the vaccine caused these deaths.

Doctors and safety monitors carefully review the details of each case to see if it might be linked to the vaccine. There are three deaths that appear to be linked to blood clots that occurred after people got the J&J vaccine. Since we now know how to correctly treat people who develop these blood clots, future deaths related to this very rare side effect can be prevented


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