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bgreene 06-22-2021 08:14 PM

The seige on our Capitol
 
This Friday at 10 pm on CNN special report including video coverage of the thugs attacking our government, police and more.

For those who discount CNN the video coverage shows the truth as it happened and while Trump and his lawyer called for his followers to fight hard and trial by combat .

Yeh some of you dont want to see it because you may not be able to handle the TRUTH

Destroyer 06-22-2021 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242285)
This Friday at 10 pm on CNN special report including video coverage of the thugs attacking our government, police and more.

For those who discount CNN the video coverage shows the truth as it happened and while Trump and his lawyer called for his followers to fight hard and trial by combat .

Yeh some of you dont want to see it because you may not be able to handle the TRUTH

First, There was no SIEGE on our capital.

Second, despite numerous requests you still have not produced a single shred of evidence to substantiate your baseless rumor that President Trump called for the demonstrators to physically fight with Capital police. In FACT, at one point he (The President) called for them to remain peaceful. But of course you'll ignore that FACT and just post more bullcrap won't you?

Third, the ONLY person that doesn't seem to want to hear the truth is the originator of this thread.

Forth, given the fact that CNN is and has been anti-Trump for the last 5 years I highly doubt that anything they have to say will be truthful.

bgreene 06-23-2021 02:39 AM

Destroyer caught my misspelling ! Congratulations !

When CNN shows actual footage of the attack on our Capitol I bet you wont watch because you cant handle the truth.

Shred of evidence you say what a sad joke.
VP Pence called in the Nation Guard to help not Trump .

Trumps a traitor to our nation who wanted our VP killed because he wouldnt CHEAT for him.
Trump belongs in prison and may be headed there for tax fraud just like Al Capone.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joewals...at-us-capitol/

bgreene 06-23-2021 03:06 AM

Only AFTER being pressured did the traitor Trump make his comments condemning the attack on our Capitol AND admitting he LOST THE ELECTION.

FACTS MATTER not trumps lies and deception.

CNN FULL REPORT this Friday at 10 pm .

https://www.npr.org/sections/insurre...ng-trumps-role

Pipe_Dream 06-23-2021 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 242286)
First, There was no SIEGE on our capital.

Second, despite numerous requests you still have not produced a single shred of evidence to substantiate your baseless rumor that President Trump called for the demonstrators to physically fight with Capital police. In FACT, at one point he (The President) called for them to remain peaceful. But of course you'll ignore that FACT and just post more bullcrap won't you?

Third, the ONLY person that doesn't seem to want to hear the truth is the originator of this thread.

Forth, given the fact that CNN is and has been anti-Trump for the last 5 years I highly doubt that anything they have to say will be truthful.

:clap:

I wonder (really I don't) what they'll spin regarding the killing of Ashli Babbitt?

bgreene 06-23-2021 09:25 AM

You wonder Pipe ? Good watch the CNN Capitol attack this Friday at 10 pm

Ashli B was fired upon after refusing to STOP as ordered by security while she vandalized and was breaking into our Capitol while wearing a trump flag.

She was one of the 5 that died associated with that Trump mob intent on killing members of our government including our VP . Followers of the traitor former President trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...46d_story.html

bgreene 06-23-2021 11:18 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...37d_story.html

Judge rules

Destroyer 06-24-2021 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242301)

Kangaroo Court

bgreene 06-24-2021 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 242303)
Kangaroo Court


Hahahah Destroyer you cant handle the truth !!
Capitol Insurrection Report CNN tomorrow at 10 pm.
I figure you’ll have your TV unplugged and hidden !!
Actual footage as it happened ……spin that into your BS

Pipe_Dream 06-24-2021 06:54 AM

It sure seems like the majority of left-liberals would say they regard the shooting of Ashli Babbitt by the police as completely justified despite the fact that she was unarmed and not engaged in violence.


I wonder, do they feel the Capitol Police should have gunned down all the people who entered the Capitol that day, or just her?

bgreene 06-24-2021 07:16 AM

Pipe If you’re going to smash into our US Capitol along with a mob of others and keep moving forward despite being ordered to stop at gun point that puts yourself into life or death situation.

Should the officer have fired on her ? Personally Id say probably no but the woman put herself into that situation.

Pipe_Dream 06-24-2021 07:21 AM

Breaking News: First dangerous "insurrectionist" sentenced. 49 year old Indiana grandmother gets a $500 fine and probation. Her guilty plea was for “parading, picketing and demonstrating”. Whew. Domestic terrorist for sure. Some would seem to say that she should be thankful that she wasn't killed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4neNXjX...jpg&name=small

bgreene 06-24-2021 08:55 AM

Pipe - clear now that you stand with the thugs who broke into our Capitol, attacked police, set up a gallows to hang our Vice President, damaged our building, while chanted hang them .

So I suppose you would also support a mob that broke into your house or business in similar fashion ?

People that side with WRONG rather than deal with whats right disappoint , but many poeple are sheep. Bahaha bahahah

CNN tomorrow 10 pm if you have the backbone to deal with the ACTUAL FOOTAGE.

Pipe_Dream 06-24-2021 09:30 AM

Too bad for Ashli Babbitt that she wasn't breaking into a Foot Locker store.

Pipe_Dream 06-24-2021 10:02 AM

Too bad that some interpret sarcasm and the questioning of law enforcement tactics and double standards as support for rioters, which it isn't. But it does illuminate the thought processes that help them to get so much else wrong.

bgreene 06-24-2021 12:11 PM

Keeping the discussion clear pipe your point is its not fair a theif stealing a tv from a store rarely gets shot by police but woman breaking into our CAPITOL did.

Agreed its not fair. A lot of penalties for crimes wind up not fair.

Destroyer 06-25-2021 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242317)
Keeping the discussion clear pipe your point is its not fair a theif stealing a tv from a store rarely gets shot by police but woman breaking into our CAPITOL did.

Agreed its not fair. A lot of penalties for crimes wind up not fair.

Since we're being clear, lets be clear about Ashli Babbitt. She was a 14 year military veteran of the Air Force. She was unarmed. She used to be military police and it's unclear if she even saw the thug that shot her. NO witness has stated that the person that shot her made any vocal command to stop of be shot. She did NOT break the glass window. (The police have charged a man with that crime) She was being hoisted up to the window by other people and while the "official" account says she was trying to climb through it several other people have stated that she just wanted to look through it (The windows were stained glass making it impossible to look through the intact ones). So here's a woman that dedicated 14 years of her life to her Country, was in Washington to assemble for a redress of her grievances as described by the Constitution of the United States that was needlessly and senselessly gunned down by a trigger happy piece of crap that you are defending. Shame on you.

bgreene 06-25-2021 04:39 AM

Wrong again Destroyer - that woman was committing a crime at her own free will, in the company of a mob attacking police and smashing their way into our Capitol.

She refused to stop at gun point and paid the price for her actions .
Was it an excessive price ? Yes but she put herself in that position .

Like a priest that rapes boys just because he preaches on Sunday doesn’t mean he gets a pass on his actions.

CNN tonight at 10 pm. The Capitol Insurrection. Watch it …… especially you .

Pipe_Dream 06-25-2021 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 242324)
Since we're being clear, lets be clear about Ashli Babbitt. She was a 14 year military veteran of the Air Force. She was unarmed. She used to be military police and it's unclear if she even saw the thug that shot her. NO witness has stated that the person that shot her made any vocal command to stop of be shot. She did NOT break the glass window. (The police have charged a man with that crime) She was being hoisted up to the window by other people and while the "official" account says she was trying to climb through it several other people have stated that she just wanted to look through it (The windows were stained glass making it impossible to look through the intact ones). So here's a woman that dedicated 14 years of her life to her Country, was in Washington to assemble for a redress of her grievances as described by the Constitution of the United States that was needlessly and senselessly gunned down by a trigger happy piece of crap that you are defending. Shame on you.

And we still don't know who shot her. Imagine a law enforcement officer shooting a BLM or other leftist protester as they attacked a police station. How long would their identity be a secret?

bgreene 06-25-2021 08:33 AM

No we don’t know the officers name who shot Emili and their famil is suing to get the name.

That said Emili PUT HERSELF IN THAT POSITION…..by joining the violent mob and trying to break into our Capitol.
Her own fault .

Pipe_Dream 06-25-2021 01:30 PM

If the shooting was justified, why don't we already know who did it? In virtually every other police shooting, justified or not, the LEO's name is released shortly after the incident.

bgreene 06-25-2021 03:52 PM

Pipe ……before you start going down the conspiracy tube know the FACTS:

“While D.C. police are required by law to release the names of officers involved in deaths or serious uses of force within five days of the incident, the Capitol Police force is not—and has often chosen to withhold that information in previous cases”

Capitol police are also not required to wear body camera.

So now you know. Some of you guys jump to WRONG CONCLUSIONS just to fit your narrative.

Me it’s about FACTS

Destroyer 06-25-2021 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242336)
No we don’t know the officers name who shot Emili and their famil is suing to get the name.

That said Emili PUT HERSELF IN THAT POSITION…..by joining the violent mob and trying to break into our Capitol.
Her own fault .

Her name was Ashli Babbitt, not Emili. You really are confused!!

Say her name Ashli Babbitt !! Say her name Ashli Babbitt !!
Say her name Ashli Babbitt !! Say her name Ashli Babbitt !!
Say her name Ashli Babbitt !! Say her name Ashli Babbitt !!
Say her name Ashli Babbitt !! Say her name Ashli Babbitt !!

Destroyer 06-25-2021 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242342)
Pipe ……before you start going down the conspiracy tube know the FACTS:

“While D.C. police are required by law to release the names of officers involved in deaths or serious uses of force within five days of the incident, the Capitol Police force is not—and has often chosen to withhold that information in previous cases”

Capitol police are also not required to wear body camera.

So now you know. Some of you guys jump to WRONG CONCLUSIONS just to fit your narrative.

Me it’s about FACTS

Oh really? Name one. Name a single different case where they have chosen to withhold that information. You made the statement, now back it up!

You say you're all about facts, but you never produce any. Just more and more of what you think is reality. (Which is very distorted by the way).

bgreene 06-25-2021 07:51 PM

Not Left or Right Destroyer …..RIGHT or WRONG .

ANYONE who joins a mob that’s attacking police and smashing into our Govt building
where our VP and others in danger puts themselves at risk for stress related gun fire

Destroyer 06-27-2021 03:39 AM

Ahhh... so now it's "stress related Gunfire"? Does that somehow make murder right? I'm sure her family is relieved to know that it's all okay, she was just the victim of "Stress related gunfire".

SHE WAS MURDERED

As soon as that shot rang out everyone in the hallway stopped what they were doing. If that "police" officer (THUG) had simply shot into the ceiling the same thing would have happened.

bgreene 06-27-2021 07:15 AM

This any different from any other case of police over action ?

NO

This womans actions of her own choosing put her in harms way.

Destroyer 06-27-2021 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242367)
This any different from any other case of police over action ?

NO

This womans actions of her own choosing put her in harms way.

We know the name of the police officer that killed George Floyd. In fact, he was just sentenced to 22 and a half years in federal prison. Why don't we know the police officers name? Why hasn't he been charged with murder just like the one that killed Floyd? You admit this was a police over action, and you even called it "stress related gunfire". You know deep down that it was wrong, yet you still defend this like it was some kind of jaywalking incident, hardly worth pursuing.

It was MURDER and I don't care what side of the room you're on, it shouldn't be squashed because it happened in the capital building. I can't, for the life of me understand how you can not at least want a full, in depth investigation. This should have gone to a grand jury inquiry already.

bgreene 06-28-2021 04:15 AM

Capitol police are not required to be named .

Walk in traffic and you may get hit by a car.

Break into our Capitol , refuse to stop while in a group thats assaulting police and then say murder . It wasnt a peaceful protest it was a violent assault .

That woman put herself in that position.

Pipe_Dream 06-28-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 242375)
We know the name of the police officer that killed George Floyd. In fact, he was just sentenced to 22 and a half years in federal prison. Why don't we know the police officers name? Why hasn't he been charged with murder just like the one that killed Floyd? You admit this was a police over action, and you even called it "stress related gunfire". You know deep down that it was wrong, yet you still defend this like it was some kind of jaywalking incident, hardly worth pursuing.

It was MURDER and I don't care what side of the room you're on, it shouldn't be squashed because it happened in the capital building. I can't, for the life of me understand how you can not at least want a full, in depth investigation. This should have gone to a grand jury inquiry already.

Just stop, Destroyer. Don't you know that asking questions is "going down the conspiracy tube?"

bgreene 06-28-2021 04:25 PM

Pipe you didnt even know Capitol police are not required to be named on a shooting .

You kept asking why isnt the name released .

FACTS matter

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivan...ook-2021-6?amp

Pipe_Dream 06-29-2021 07:37 AM

Two tiers of justice.

bgreene 06-29-2021 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 242394)
Two tiers of justice.

Pipe - this reply of yours is vague non specific and suggestive rather than meaningful.
Maybe you should post on a philosophy forum .

Uncertain and bad things can and do happen when a person is committing a crime with a mob fighting against armed police.

bgreene 07-14-2021 06:59 PM

Arnold tells it as it is ……


https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/watc...ctionists.html

Destroyer 07-15-2021 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242389)
Pipe you didnt even know Capitol police are not required to be named on a shooting .

You kept asking why isnt the name released .

FACTS matter

https://www.businessinsider.com/ivan...ook-2021-6?amp

LOL YOu call what is really nothing more than an advertisement for a forthcoming book as facts? No wonder you're so mixed up.

Destroyer 07-15-2021 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242553)

Who the heck gives a crap what some old, washed up Hollywood has been star thinks? If this is how you get your information and opinions no wonder you're so confused. :head:

bgreene 07-15-2021 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Destroyer (Post 242555)
Who the heck gives a crap what some old, washed up Hollywood has been star thinks? If this is how you get your information and opinions no wonder you're so confused. :head:

Destroyer - so called old people have no value to you ?
Quite a meaningful personal story from Arnold Schwarzenegger — self made man who came from small Austrian town and became Governor of California .

Destroyer 07-15-2021 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pipe_Dream (Post 242394)
Two tiers of justice.

Pipe, you hit the nail on the head. You want an even bigger demonstration of the two tiers of justice? All the media and Democrats keep calling it the "Jan 6 insurrection"... You see it all over the place. But the really funny thing is that none of the protesters, .....NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON has been charged with either insurrection or sedition. In FACT, almost all of those arrested have only been charged with criminal trespass. (A misdemeanor). Yet they have been keep imprisoned for almost 6 months already, without bail, many of them in solitary confinement.

Now compare that to the all the rioters that took place last year in 22 major cities. Several Democrat lawmakers and Hollywood elites actually started funds to make money available for bail for anyone arrested during the riots. Buildings were burned, cars overturned and set on fire, stores were looted, people were beaten and shot, cops were locked in their own precinct house and then the building was set on fire, pallets of rocks and bricks were stockpiled beforehand for the rioters to throw at the police. OVER a BILLION dollars in damages were caused by them, and almost all of the rioters and looters were let out, (most on the same day), and charges were dropped by liberal prosecutors and judges.

If that doesn't show the two tiered justice system nothing will.

Of course, I'm sure there will be people that will come back, ignore everything I just typed and say some kind of nonsense about how "facts matter" and how the people that took part in the Jan 6, mostly peaceful demonstration have only themselves to blame and that they are being treated the same as all criminals..... in other words, more silly BS.

bgreene 07-15-2021 05:07 AM

Destroyer - you even have excuses for your excuses.

This is about the Trump led violent attack on our Capitol
Yes the attack with goal to hang our Vice President and other members of our top government gets more attention than inner city violence.

Whats at stake here is the democracy of our nation threatened by the shrewd lying con man former president trump .

These meaningful words from Arnold Schwarzenegger are honest and important .
You disrespect Arnold for being old and a former actor. Thats just wrong. Ronald Reagan was also an actor, and of advanced age as President. Your set of values is disrespectful, mean spirited and unfair. Who are you in comparison to Arnold and Ronald Reagan ?

https://www.vulture.com/2021/01/watc...ctionists.html

Destroyer 07-15-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bgreene (Post 242556)
Destroyer - so called old people have no value to you ?
Quite a meaningful personal story from Arnold Schwarzenegger — self made man who came from small Austrian town and became Governor of California .

Whoopie-doo, So that means you should follow everything he says? Boy, do I have a great deal for you. You see, I own this bridge in Manhattan that connects to Brooklyn. It's a sure fire money maker and I'll sell it to you for cheap. I've made all the money I need from it and it's time I gave it to someone else so they can get rich also. Contact me and we can arrange price and payment.

(Oh, and I think that since I'm older than Arnold you would have realized that your comment on old people would fall on deaf ears).

Now go ahead and contact me for the price on that bridge. I'm selling it for a great price. No, really, it's a steal.


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